no i think there are alot of people inside companies that are essentially playing telephone. they are communicating, writing documents and emails, "working". but really they actually produce nothing

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asdff 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's pretty much sales. If the market were efficient and easy to navigate as a buyer there wouldn't be a need for salespeople, just like how I can buy my own cereal without one. Imagine if you went to buy cereal and the sign said "call for quote." Imagine that extended to every single item you can possibly purchase. The world would stop from the inefficiency. And yet we tolerate it especially in business 2 business setting because hey its not our money we are spending, and smooth talking works really well on our monkey brains.

	▲	jimbokun an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> just like how I can buy my own cereal without one. Cereal companies spend lots and lots of money on advertising.

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spamizbad 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Everyone says this and then when the company experiences a round of layoffs everyone’s job gets harder, service gets worse and delivery slows down

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nwiswell 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's not incompatible with many people being unproductive. If you blanket terminate, some of them will have been contributing

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jmoggr 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

both things can be true: many people play unnecessary telephone + removing those people disrupts the organization

Both are probably true to some extent, and would vary a lot between different orgs.

	▲	keybrd-intrrpt 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> removing those people disrupts the organization Or worse, you removed the workers and left the 'telephone' people. In my anecdotal experience, MOST companies don't take any time to understand what they are cutting. They kill "Project X" so the easy answer is that everyone involved with Project X must go. Regardless if they were useful or could be useful elsewhere. Or they cut by salary, employment length, etc.

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shimman 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, the idea that there is a rampant amount of slack in the modern US corporation is just odd. Go speak to workers and ask them if they feel that they have slack.

Slack hasn't been a thing for like 40 years, in fact it's mostly the opposite I'd argue where there is such little slack that employers often steal wages from their workers to gain even more profits.

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