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▲ ngruhn 3 hours ago

I saw some video once about intelligence tests on crows. In one experiment they had a tall but thin glass of water with some treat floating on the surface but it was too low for the crow to reach. So the crow started dropping rocks into the glass, causing the water level to rise, until it could reach the treat.

I was so impressed, I wanted to replicate that. I went to a park around the corner with some nuts to befriend some crows. My plan was to just feed them for a while so they would trust me. But after a few days I had flock of crows following me everywhere through the city. That was a bit too much.

▲shoobiedoo 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My dad had a friend who worked at a remote logging area and tossed his bread crust to a raven that was perched by the road. Next day, the raven swooped past his truck as he drove past. Eventually he stopped and dug something out of his lunchbox and gave it to him.

Then every day for months, he would just hold a snack in his fingers and the raven would swoop down and grab it as he drove past. Pretty amazing to think about. That level of foresight, adherence to a routine, not giving up (days off, etc).

▲helterskelter2 an hour ago | parent [-]

I knew somebody who had logged in Alaska and they swore that this one town had a huge crow who would hang out by the town's welcome sign and...welcome the visitors. Apparently crows who spend enough time around people will sometimes mimic human speech and this particular crow had been taught to welcome people in.

▲defrost 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

If you like that crow you'll probably get a kick out of Ngarritj the corella: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbSxc6Y1aVA

Edit: Apologies - dead link, after years of being up :/

See: https://flickerfest.com.au/film/ngarritj/

18 minute short film about a very social corella that adopted an entire community in the north of Australia, surfing on car bonnets, stealing cards from players, performing for food, hurling insults, teasing dogs, etc.

▲bob1029 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Crows are natures version of the flock camera network. I made the mistake of regularly throwing a cup of premium bird seed into the yard. Once they locked onto this activity I got in trouble for stopping. They would do as you describe. I'd see them standing on top of my truck as I walk out of the grocery store.

▲prox 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Only feed them away from your house. These are smart birds, you don’t want them tracking you home ;)

▲yieldcrv an hour ago | parent [-]

They definitely know where you live

▲vaylian 9 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Obligatory wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_Aren%27t_Real

I also don't think the name "flock" is a coincidence. Fuck flock (the company) obviously.

▲mlvljr an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

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▲samlinnfer 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That’s an Aesop’s fable (the Crow and the Pitcher).

https://read.gov/aesop/012.html

▲rendall an hour ago | parent [-]

Yes! And it also was an intentional study in animal cognition. Christopher Bird and Nathan Emery at the University of Cambridge decided to test whether birds could actually do what Aesop described. Their study, published in Current Biology in August 2009, was titled: "Rooks Use Stones to Raise the Water Level to Reach a Floating Worm."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096098220...

There was a related study in 2014, "Using the Aesop's Fable Paradigm to Investigate Causal Understanding of Water Displacement by New Caledonian Crows."

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjourn...

▲cachius 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

What a fitting name Christopher has

▲nilslindemann 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Speaking of animal intelligence: I have always been impressed by the short-term memory of chimpanzees, which outperforms that of humans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM5QS_adrIQ

The explanation given by scientists is that chimpanzees need this type of memory to keep a clear mental map of their surroundings while climbing. Still, spectacular.

▲moi2388 an hour ago | parent [-]

Unfortunately that was a flawed study. They paired trained chimps with people who saw the task for the first time.

It was later repeated, and if given the same training, humans still outperform chimps in this task.

▲rbanffy 31 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> But after a few days I had flock of crows following me everywhere through the city. That was a bit too much.

Be thankful. How many people you know are part of a murder?

▲krtkush 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The crow and rocks experiment was a staple “moral story” when I was a child in India. Interesting that someone actually validated it!

▲reddozen 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This a classic story from Aesop's Fables. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crow_and_the_Pitcher It's been passed down for a few thousand years.

▲mrheosuper an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I had flock of crows following me everywhere through the city

That sound so cool, like main character in your story.

▲rbanffy 29 minutes ago | parent [-]

Right? Guy has his own Air Force!

▲mihaaly 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Around here in the autumn crows engage with various nuts, hard shell ones included difficult or impossible for them to open. So they frequent the bicycle tracks with high traffic, fly above you from the back, elevate a bit while dropping their nuts so you can run those over. Lots of heavy cargo bikes are used by families here, so it is a fruitful exercise for them. Assuming the cyclist realises what is happening and instead of avoiding the nut - like I did the first time not having a clue what this is about - run over it.

▲Lukas_Skywalker 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

One of my favourites as well. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2IBayVsbz8

▲Hamuko 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My desire to befriend some crows is only increased by this comment.

▲rbanffy 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I have been doing this regularly (unfortunately, can't do it daily) near where I buy groceries, which is next to where my kid goes to school. I started during summer, as a joke - they would have their own Air Force when they returned to school, and now they know my car.

Hooded crows seem to be friendlier, and come the closest, but rooks open their mouths as if I am their parent. They pick up cat food in the air and, sometimes, from my hand (some of the hooded crows do that, and pretty much all the starlings, which we call "honorary crows"). Jackdaws are the least friendly (or the most scared). Sometimes they come in couples, sometimes with their kids.

There are no ravens in my neighborhood, which I find sad. If I ever befriend a couple of them, I'll call them Edgar and Lenore.

▲ngruhn 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

haha :D but consider they were not just on some rooftop nearby. They were quite close. I wouldn't mind per se but the social cost... I think it was obvious to everyone in the streets that these birds were following me. I didn't want to be the bird guy.

▲yetihehe a minute ago | parent [-]

Your username sounds like something a pidgeon would say...

▲maverickpilot 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I really tried to befriend some crows but in the end I only got a pigeon ... and in-between I had some really destructive ravens.

▲kgwgk 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Seems the setup for one of those “the crows have eyes” movies.

https://www.thecrowshaveeyes.com/

▲avhception 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I saw that video of the experiment with the thin glass as well, it's been years since then but I still tell people about it. Crows are awesome!