| ▲ | Terr_ 10 hours ago |
| What happens when I put a Terms of Service on my website (esp. with a firm click-wrap) which says Meta agrees to not scrape my website--notwithstanding any prior agreement--and will owe me a billion dollars in damages if they do? |
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| ▲ | jenadine 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| You should do it, so we find out. (But my guess is that such Terms of Services are not considered accepted only by visiting or crawling the website. There probably need to be at least a clock through performed by an human) |
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| ▲ | clort 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | How about if you put that notice on the website, but also write it out explicitly and post it via registered mail to the Meta lawyers. Explicitly state that the content on your site is not licenced to be scraped for free and any usage must be paid for (eg $10/GET with penalties for non-payment), and that any usage of the site by Meta or their agents is an indication that they accept the terms fully. Then check your logs and start sending appropriate invoices. Then after 1yr of unpaid invoices: <profit> | | |
| ▲ | haneefmubarak an hour ago | parent [-] | | I imagine the general problem is still that you're trying to bind a party without a live human who is plausibly authorized to bind them making a reasonably active decision to do so. IANAL, but AIUI "doing XYZ normal thing means you accept my contract" is already on shaky grounds, whereas never actually having the other party affirmatively agree (esp to a contract of adhesion) makes it super unlikely any non-kangaroo court would do anything besides throw your case out. |
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| ▲ | Terr_ 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Hey, if they can bypass a ToS agreement with a bot that clicks for them, so can I! Well, assuming, y'know, justice under the law and such. |
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| ▲ | coldpie 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Facebook is a zillion dollar company, so they get to decide what will happen. |
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| ▲ | MisterMunchkin 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They’ll say their TOS is the prior agreement. It’s genius. |
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| ▲ | dgellow 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Will you enforce it? |
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| ▲ | consensus1 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| If Meta clicks on the checkbox and agrees to the TOS then it is binding on them just like any other contract. If they don't, then it isn't. |