>> You say this like population decline is a bad thing.

> It is. The eventual end of population decline is the decline of civilization and eventually the end of humanity. The first part we face in our lifetimes is economic decline, joblessness, and more.

That's a ridiculous claim unsupported by any evidence.

The counter argument has much stronger backing: If we measure "civilization" by standard of living and technological progress then they are associated with lower birth rates.

>>You causal chain clearly makes women responsible

> It does. They aren't responsible willingly.

Like I said - blaming women.

> My claim is that men BEING single and not able to find a male or a girlfriend or a wife increases suicide rates. Think about it. It's a very VERY realistic proposition.

The evidence doesn't show this. eg:

> Suicide fatality rate was higher in married people compared to the unmarried, however, after adjusting for age as a determinant factor, no significant difference was observed between the 2 groups.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6505054/

There is some evidence that divorce increases suicide amongst men:

> Divorce did matter in a negative way, but only for men. What seems important about divorce is not that the men end up unmarried. Remember that the men who had always been single were no more likely to kill themselves than the men who were currently married. Instead, having once been married and then getting divorced seems to be the risk – again, only for the men.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/living-single/201304...

Indeed the very article we are commenting is about suicide by men aged 45 to 64, who have higher marriage rates that other groups!

Clearly marriage should be banned! ;)

> That's a ridiculous claim unsupported by any evidence.

It’s called following the trendline. We have current rates of population decline and past rates of population decline and we do a projection and we get one of the few quantitative predictors in our statistical arsenal. All else is qualitative speculation.

> Like I said - blaming women

Are you reading what I wrote? Take a look at what I wrote again before starting shit.

> The evidence doesn't show this.

Among the suicides by men age 45 to 64 those are the divorced men. That is the age where divorces happen.

Marriage shouldn’t be banned. Condoms should.

And outside of this. Your rude ass comments and witch hunt like accusations were uncalled for.