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▲ cowlevel 15 hours ago

Is this accounting for the fact that they kill people based on metadata? More technically complex and unreliable protocols such as SimpleX attempt to also protect the metadata.

▲woodruffw 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Is what accounting for that? If you're worried about metadata leaks, you shouldn't be using email, full stop.

▲TFNA 6 hours ago | parent [-]

By "metadata" GP is presumably talking, as I was, about Signal uploading most users' contact lists to the server with weak protection.

▲akerl_ 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The point is that if the comparison point is PGP-encrypted email, which has no protection for any metadata and passes it on the wire in the clear, raising concerns about Signal’s metadata protections makes no sense.

▲TFNA an hour ago | parent [-]

In the context of this whole big thread, the point is that neither infamously leaky PGP nor Signal keep metadata secure from nation-level actors.