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▲ dylan604 17 hours ago

Please, enlighten me on how you used PGP where calling it hard to use is so far from the truth. ProtonMail only works if you send messages to another ProtonMail user. It does not protect you when you email someone else.

▲traceroute66 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> ProtonMail only works if you send messages to another ProtonMail user.

Your wording is not entirely accurate.

ProtonMail works perfectly well with external PGP. You can import third-party keys and IIRC it also supports WKD.

So its not "only another ProtonMail user".

IN ADDITION .... you can also send an encrypted, password protected message to a non-Proton Mail email address. The recipient can read it in the browser: https://proton.me/support/password-protected-emails

▲dylan604 an hour ago | parent [-]

Your use of ProtonMail+PGP is not how people expect ProtonMail to work when it is claimed to be encrypted email. ProtonMail+PGP is no different than GMail+PGP or AOL+PGP or FastMail+PGP or $coolNameMail+PGP. So what's your point?

Anything+PGP can be encrypted. You still have to use PGP which means creating public/private key pairs, store them correctly, and understand when to use the public key and when to use the private key. You still then need to know how to exchange keys in a trustworthy manner, but that's after you convince someone else to do all of that on their end as well.

So yeah, it's dead simple <facepalm>

▲KAMSPioneer 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

What GP likely means is that a Protonmail user can exchange encrypted emails with a non-Protonmail user without doing anything except importing the non-Protonmail user's keys once.

This could allow a single technical user with an elaborate PGP key and email setup to convince his or her social circle (or at least email circle) to switch to Protonmail and follow a set of (comparatively) simple steps to get Proton to recognize the key to their non-Proton address.

Thereby having PGP-encrypted conversations with users who don't know how PGP works, but followed their friends' instructions to use a slightly different webmail interface. Meanwhile the technical user can use a smartcard, a self-hosted email server, or other madness that a normal user would never tolerate.