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▲ techdiff 18 hours ago

This is up there with BMW charging a subscription for heated seats.

▲netsharc 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't see the appeal of heated seats, I've never turned the ones in my cars on. OK, I suppose when you've left your car in below zero weather it's useful.

Heated steering wheel on the other hand; that's heavenly.

I suppose if I ever find a BMW attractive enough to buy one despite this consumer-hating behavior (their grilles help me stay away), I'd figure out if I can unplug the seat from the control unit, and just plug it straight to a different power supply to get the heat. Or will they use something like HDMI's Digital Content Protection to prevent "heat piracy"?

Anyway it's all theoretical, it seems they've given up trying to pick your pocket for heated seats, but for other features they're still going to mug you: https://www.drive.com.au/news/bmw-admits-heated-seat-subscri...

▲JumpCrisscross 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> when you've left your car in below zero weather it's useful

Yup. Getting back from any snow sport where you wiped out and all the snow decided your butt's where it's going to hang out sells the product.

▲cogogo 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you do not have a garage and live in a cold weather climate they are fantastic. Heat up almost instantly when the engine might not warm up entirely to get the heat going for a good 15 min.

▲nijave 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They are nice in cold weather to "hold you over" on short drives before the air heating warms the car up.

My Civic remote start with the key fob will automatically turn them on when it's cold.

▲eps 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Heated steering wheel on the other hand; that's heavenly

Twice I tried it on rental cars it freaked the hell out of me. This is what I'd imagine people experiencing some exotic neurological collapse feel like - part of hands feeling warm, while surrounding bits feeling frozen. Mixed signaling, really bizarre dissonance. So now when I get a new car, I get pretty much every option except for the heated steering wheel.

▲encom an hour ago | parent [-]

It's funny, I have heated steering wheel in my car (2022 Leaf), and when I bought it I didn't think anything of it. However, being in Scandinavia, when the first snow+ice came, I tried it and loved it instantly. Now I even use it on not very cold days, just because it feels nice. :)

▲kshacker 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have some sorta skin condition that I can not stand either the heated seats and the heated steering wheel.

But my wife ... in winters, the first thing on entering the car is to activate the heatings seats. Some people like them. And yes I paid for the subscription (or a package that cost me a bunch but gave me everything all inclusive).

▲lokar 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I see you did not grow up going out to the driveway to start the car before breakfast :)

▲netsharc 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Grew up in a warm place. Currently my car sleeps in a relatively warm underground carpark of the apartment block.

▲nottorp 21 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It's like designed by Apple in California. Hard to understand winters then :)

Picking on Apple because I've had my phone shut down when i left it on the dashboard inside my stopped car.

▲sumeno 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, we could tell from your original comment

▲lokar 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We had to plug our (gas) car in at night. I don’t recommend it.

▲buryat 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

it's quite useful in a convertible along with the heated steering and the neck warmer taking it roof down on a coldish day

▲TylerE 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Turn it on on the passenger seat to keep your take out food warm while you drive home.

Also good for those of us with back issues. I use mine even in the summer sometimes for that reason.

▲lokar 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You can buy the feature outright when you order the car.

This is just them figuring out that if they pre-install the HW in every car they get enough payments to cover the units never used.

It has two obvious consumer benefits: second hand sales (the new owner may really want it), and very occasional use.

▲techdiff 16 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't think either of those are consumer benefits at all. And the hardware was charged for when the car was initially sold - it was part of the total unit cost of creation. The subscription was a consumer hostile way of increasing spend with the brand. The genius' at BMW looked at Tesla's Plaid mode and FSD and thought they could replicate that model but failed to realise that people don't view their brands the same way - people treat a Tesla like a software purchase, but a BMW like an expensive toaster.