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▲ popinman322 5 hours ago

The model license requires large inference providers to contact Meta separately to obtain a license to serve the model. I know we've seen this before with other large models, but it's still a bit irritating.

The usual effect of separate licensing is decreased price competition from public providers (like we saw with Kimi K3). I guess it's better for the providers if the price is fixed: any efficiency improvements directly improve margin rather than driving prices down over time. Still, to provide my own anecdata, the main thing keeping me on a paid subscription is token costs for the more capable models.

▲isityettime 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Then it's not open-weight. Open-weight means "weights available under an open-source license", and licenses prohibiting commercial use are not open-source.

The nearest analogue would be "weights available", I guess.

▲tcdent 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Meta did this from the very beginning with the original Llama's. Open weights, but you have to use an account with them and agree to an EULA.

▲dannyw 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's obvs decreased price competition, but it also does help with ensuring model quality.

Quite a lot of providers on OpenRouter run degraded or broken models. I think some is deliberate, but I think a lot is just providers not setting up models properly; especially with the rush to day zero models.

▲AtHeartEngineer 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

ya especially because it's huge, you aren't running this on your desktop