I tested the latest Steam build on MacOS and it took 7 seconds to load on an M4 Max and I had to close a popup when it opened.

In the web world and 7-10 seconds for a pageload is forever. Same with mobile, if you tapped an app icon and it loaded that slow it would never be tolerated.

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crtasm 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Thankfully you can turn off that news popup in the settings.

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the_af 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> In the web world and 7-10 seconds for a pageload is forever.

But a game client is not a web page. You open it once (some people, on boot) and then it's just sitting there. You don't randomly start it from scratch whenever you run a game...

And even if you did, 7-10 seconds waiting for a game to start is not the same as waiting for a page to load. You can wait for the game.

	▲	mahboi an hour ago \| parent [-]
		"You don't randomly start it from scratch whenever you run a game..." Uh, this is exactly what I do. What's so special about an app that launches apps that it needs to be left warm constantly?

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sleepybrett 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

m5pro 64gb, 3s to get to the first 'loading window', 5s to get to the store page. But honestly who gives a shit. If you are the average working joe who comes home from work and fires up the pc to play a game, a 5s load of steam is not even a piece of gravel in the road let alone a speed bump. It's not like i'm opening and closing steam 100, 50 or even 5 times a day. It's a useless metric.

	▲	dmix 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Standards are so low these days. > If you are the average working joe who comes home from work and fires up the pc to play a game My usecase was wanting to add a game to a wishlist > It's not like i'm opening and closing steam 100, 50 or even 5 times a day. I've opened Steam app about a thousand times and it's always felt like clunky dated software.
	▲	mahboi an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I occasionally want to play a little video game after work. The amount of nonsense involved before actually launching the game has deterred me enough that I usually play something not on Steam instead. Like, AssaultCube launches instantly. Even Minecraft with the right launcher is pretty quick.

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simoncion 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> In the web world and 7-10 seconds for a pageload is forever.

Given that its primary purposes are to start video games that take anywhere from five to thirty+ seconds to start and to download video games and their patches which range in size between many hundreds of MBs to a hundred+ GBs, the client taking roughly ten seconds to start is no problem.

Optimize where it makes sense, yanno? I'd much rather have to "deal with" the Steam client taking ten seconds to start than to have to deal with the Epic Games Launcher's download rate being limited to 100->150 mbit/s. [0]

[0] Last I checked on this was a few years ago -like twelve months after Sea Of Thieves stopped being widely popular- so it may have improved. The absurdly slow download speeds [1] are one of the bigger reasons why I stopped using EGS.

[1] Sure, many people don't have connections any faster than that. I do. Steam saturates it, and -at the time- EGS absolutely did not and occupied 100% of one logical CPU while failing to do so.

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dmix 2 hours ago | parent [-]

? I already addressed in my original comment that I wouldn't care if it was just a game launcher but the Stream app is more than that.

It opens to the store page for a reason, not to your library page.

	▲	simoncion 4 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> It opens to the store page for a reason, not to your library page. Mine doesn't. Mine even opens in Small Mode. These are configurable settings. If you dislike how they are set, reconfigure them. Have you also not disabled the News Window that pops up on startup? You can turn that off, you know! > I already addressed in my original comment that I wouldn't care if it was just a game launcher but the Stream app is more than that. Okay? Do you spend substantially more time using the Steam client to browse the Steam storefront than to play video games? Seriously? On top of that, will five seconds of additional load time cause you to change your mind about making a purchase? If so, you really weren't interested in the either the thing you were buying or the search for that thing, and it's -very seriously- definitely for the best that you were dissuaded. Valve is making money hand over fist, so the lost sale doesn't matter to them and you get to use that money on something that you're not -at best- aggressively tepid about.