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| ▲ | computerdork 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's an over generalization but think this person has a point. The US health system has it problems (cost!!), but have read that since it's money driven instead of a government service, compared to other healthcare systems, it's often got a shorter wait time to see a doctor. This makes sense, a lot of students want to become doctors in the US, because they can make a lot of money | | |
| ▲ | InexSquirrel 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I feel like the >(cost!!) factor can't really be overstated there. IF you have money then you can get healthcare, if you don't, then you're out of luck. It's a massive gate which needs to be passed, and if you can't pass, then you're locked out with no alternative. That doesn't sound great to me (read: broken), because it means its not evenly accessible across your society. I wouldn't count that as a good system to be honest. I have limited experience with the New Zealand and Japanese medical systems, and from a similarly arms-length engagement with them, I think I would prefer them over everything I've read about the US system. You still have the same issues with having to advocate for yourself, but you can at least get access to good healthcare across the board - and if you go private (which as a late 30s / early 40s guy, cost around NZ$60 / month), you can get access to care at private facilities much faster than via public. It is most definitely imperfect, but it _is_ designed to be accessible to everyone. | |
| ▲ | louthy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > but have read You read that where? What evidence do you have? In my experience, Americans are often blissfully unaware about how poor their health services are. As someone who has seen many health services up close (from founding a health tech company and literally visiting myriad health establishments around the world, over the past few decades), the US hospitals and clinics always struck me as the most run down. But as soon as I walked in the boardroom at UHG or HCA, it suddenly all became a lot more glamorous. And whilst the US does ok with cancer outcomes, so do other nations like Germany, Switzerland, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Canada, and the United Kingdom. Most advanced nations have universal healthcare with similar outcomes to the US, but for significantly less money. They also don’t leave citizens destitute for having the unmitigated gall to impose an unexpected health emergency on themselves. The US system funnels profit, it doesn’t provide better healthcare. | |
| ▲ | snapetom 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I explored specializing in health econ in college. My professor put it this way - health care is a scarce good. There's only so many doctors, so much medicine, so many beds. You have to control access to the goods somehow, otherwise you have Tragedy of the Commons. In the rest of the world, it's controlled by extended wait times. In the US, it's cost. You can have moral arguments about what's fair, but that's the economic reality. At the time I as studying this (early 2010's), the average wait time of diagnosis to first treatment for breast cancer in the US was 12 days. In NIH, it was 5 months. |
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