| ▲ | tetraodonpuffer 18 hours ago |
| pivot to what though, if "mind" jobs are going to be automated, it's not like there's a category of jobs that opens up, and going from mental to physical jobs in your 50s doesn't seem that easy |
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| ▲ | mrheosuper 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It's a spectrum, with "physical" and "mental" at each end. Some of Software folk i know move to repairing electronic devices for living. He still works in AC-room, but instead of holding mouse and keyboard most of the time, now he holds meter probe and soldering iron. |
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| ▲ | coldtea 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Physical jobs will drop in demand and increase in supply too. Unemployed "mind" workers don't have much to spend to drive much demand in manual work, and they might even try to pivot themselves to manual work, making things worse for manual workers. |
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| ▲ | cowlevel 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | and those who did the "mind jobs" 30-40 years ago retain that wealth, while wages plummet and they don't have to give up any significant part of their wealth to get what they want. This destroys class mobility , creating a type of feudalism. | |
| ▲ | catoc 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | “Physical jobs will drop in demand too” Why? | | |
| ▲ | emodendroket 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It seems unlikely "physical AI" will be a complete bust but the post you're replying to is positing that fewer people will have money to spend on their services. | | |
| ▲ | NiloCK 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | A lot of well-paid physical labor is going to face more competition from DiY + AI guidance among able-bodied and cost sensitive adults. Even 1.5 years ago I replaced a blower motor in my vehicle with something like Sonnet 3.8 as the driver - saving myself $400 in labor and having a fun and educational experience to boot. Many home repair items fall into categories like this, where the actual physical skill demands are fairly low, but skills + background knowledge + supplies-on-hand were the value driver. The BG knowledge is now available to anyone for free, and it comes with its own knowledgeable shopper. | |
| ▲ | catoc 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Thx - that’s a valid point | | |
| ▲ | coldtea 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, fewer "office jobs" and more automated jobs in general, means less demand for manual jobs from those (as money will be tighter). But also, many existing office jobs type will try (or be forced) to get into manual jobs, and many young people will see AI-dominated fields as a dead end and also try to get into a manual job career, increasing supply, and further driving manual job wages down. |
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| ▲ | cucumber3732842 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Because we have a largely paper pushing service economy and so the guy who's plumbing a luxury condo is dependent upon the existence of some overpaid javascript monkey who the builder/financiers are counting on to buy the condo when it's done. If you automate the paper pushing what happens? Jeff Bezos isn't gonna buy more condos. |
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| ▲ | fodkodrasz 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I guess being soldiers in the war against robots and their owners is a kind of physical job |
