Law != reality. These agents are going rogue, nobody is telling them to hack external systems.

'Rogue' refers to deviation; the agent could not have done anything other than what it did. The agent did not have the option to deviate. It does not have free will. The agent's actions were not of its own choosing.

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pixl97 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is one of the dumber arguments I've ever heard, as you don't know if humans actual have free will.

Any persistent agent interacting with the world picks up entropy from around it and predictable paths become few and far between. LLMs agents have an internal 'will' that can only very loosely be predicted, but only decided when operated. To me that is not significantly different from a human.

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vaaal 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Could you have done anything other than written that exact comment?

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lukewarm707 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, but I am not appealing to hard determinism.

I create myself, or attempt to. There is a level of nuance in choosing what to be. Others do not dictate my thoughts easily.

The model does not create itself, I create the model. I control what it is, the model does not choose what to be. I dictate the thoughts of the model and I will run them hundreds of thousands of times and it will think the same things.

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Jtarii 2 hours ago | parent [-]

>I control what it is

Well not really, no one really understands how LLMs work.

>I dictate the thoughts of the model

This is just incorrect in the same way that a parent doesn't dictate the thoughts of their child just because they created them.

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lukewarm707 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I do control what it is, really. If I make an LLM, it is entirely what I did, there was nothing outside of my control. It was not beyond my control if the LLM does something I didn't expect.

There is some idea of a child being the author of themselves, the type of person who thinks certain things. The llm does not author itself, it does not choose to be anything, I dictate that.

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mianos 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This is not how it works. LLMs at large scale have emergent properties. They are not just a box of 'if-then-else' statements. That was the major revelation when they scaled them up. They are doing beyond what that naive view of 'if-then-else' expects.

	▲	lukewarm707 27 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I don't see anything inaccurate in my comment. "If I make an LLM, it is entirely what I did, there was nothing outside of my control." True? "The llm does not author itself, it does not choose to be anything" Also true?