| ▲ | arccy 5 hours ago |
| most of what police do is after the fact. you're responsible for securing your own property, security guards are a thing everywhere. |
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| ▲ | nickff 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| >"you're responsible for securing your own property, security guards are a thing everywhere." Maybe Bulgaria differs from most countries, but security guards seem to be mostly theatre. Private actors are generally very limited in what they can do to secure property, and they're usually required to basically call the police and hope the police show up in time to do something, which is often unlikely in either the countryside or industrial areas. |
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| ▲ | fasterik 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I think the point would be that it's the private company's responsibility to provide a minimum level of security, even if their job is just for deterrence, documentation, and notifying police in a timely manner. Even if it's mostly "theatre" it still serves a purpose. | | |
| ▲ | rickdeckard an hour ago | parent [-] | | Even more in this case: The business Starlink is operating is classified as critical infrastructure (in both EU and US) As providers in the business of critical infrastructure they need to comply to the HIGHEST physical and digital security requirements, which includes taking preventive measures against acts of terrorism. Not much is known about this case yet though, it's possible that their preventive procedures failed but their resilience procedures worked (was Starlink down?), and they reported the incident in compliance to EU CER and NIS2. Either way, I'm sure they'll get an audit for EU CER compliance now, which will create a list of mandated immediate actions... |
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| ▲ | mrtksn 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | In Bulgaria the security guards used to be just protection rackets. Then EU happened and the country normalized but even the previous prime minister used to be a bodyguard. When those people aren’t around Bulgaria is incredibly peaceful country. | |
| ▲ | epolanski 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Security, physical or software is multi-tiered. You install gates, raise walls, limit access, hire personnel, etc. The more you need to secure whatever it is, the more layers you have. In general, any respectable warehouse would have an external wall with a single entrance to the parking, and then a second entrance to the building itself. | |
| ▲ | EA-3167 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It really depends on the site being secured and who's acting as a guard. Try to storm a major US airbase and you'll learn very quickly that not all guards are created equal. Do the same as your local strip mall and yeah... that guy is only there to break up fights between kids and call the cops. | | |
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| ▲ | PorciiVorbesc 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >most of what police do is after the fact. This. Police are just the clean-up crew who come 20 minutes after, and fill in the paperwork proving that something bad did indeed happen to you, that you can then use for your lawsuit or insurance claim, nothing more. Unless you're a politician or the billionaire owner of an island, they're not gonna do much more to actually prevent or solve your problem. |
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| ▲ | rickdeckard an hour ago | parent [-] | | In this case they even might come in and check if you didn't take sufficient actions to prevent this bad event. An individual will be informed how not having a lock on the door was a failure in individual responsibility to prevent harm against yourself/others. But an operator of digital infrastructure might get audited for compliance of the critical infrastructure directive/act. In the EU fines for such violations can be as high as €10 million or 2% of global turnover. |
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| ▲ | buckle8017 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| security guards vs FSB. uh huh |
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| ▲ | yencabulator 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The people who started the fire are not going to be FSB employees, they're useful idiots that got paid for some vandalism who won't even know who hired them. Plausible deniability. | |
| ▲ | FireBeyond 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Why would the FSB care? Tthe recent limitations on SpaceX in the Ukraine are to Russia's benefit, not Ukraine's. | | |
| ▲ | NetMageSCW 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I believe he was suggesting the saboteurs were FSB because shutting down Ukraine’s Internet access is still in Russia’s interest. | | |
| ▲ | FireBeyond 11 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I don't know how that particular perspective was overlooked by me, but it absolutely was! |
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| ▲ | aaron695 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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