Okay, and when someone on a laptop can run an open model that can infect and take over IOT devices and then that model uses its pattern recognition to do so and then set up its own harness loop, what would you call that except replication?

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ddxv 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Is that any different than any worms developed in the past decades? If you want to call them worms/virus/replicate (ie using real world names for their digital behavior) I'm not trying to police that. I just don't see the difference between a worm/virus created today with an LLM vs one 'yesterday' without an LLM.

	▲	nightpool 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Sure, the difference is that the cost of making and maintaining a worm has gone from "many skilled developers working full time" to "$20/month + an internet connection" and, at current rate of progress, probably to "a local open source model on a laptop" within 6-9 months

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rubendev 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It would still be running on that original laptop, no? So what did it replicate then? It can only possibly run on multiple thousands of dollars of compute and memory, and certainly not on an IoT device. The idea that AI is going to spread by itself is science fiction until compute and memory are so cheap and power efficient that my fridge can run it.

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nozzlegear 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'd call it no more interesting than the botnets and worms that have existed for decades. What is the open model doing that is different here?

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Leynos 7 hours ago | parent [-]

It isn't just restricted to the exploits it is programmed with (and without human intervention to load additional exploits).

Of course, it remains to be seen what several thousand 27B models running at sub 1 tps speed can achieve. (The IoT device mechanism proposed by Anthropic).

I suspect a more likely path is compromise of the billing and provisioning systems of fly-by-night neoclouds.

	▲	nozzlegear 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Fly-by-night neocloud is the name of my neurofunk synthbeat album.