| ▲ | acedTrex 21 hours ago |
| No, absolutely not. We will continue to value output that purely shows human thinking and effort. |
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| ▲ | kingstnap 21 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I'm fine with AI writing as long its not bad. The issue is that its far easier to produce large amounts of poorly made AI writing over well made AI writing. |
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| ▲ | palmotea 21 hours ago | parent [-] | | > I'm fine with AI writing as long its not bad. The issue is that its far easier to produce large amounts of poorly made AI writing over well made AI writing. AI writing is some average over all writing the model was trained on (with some RLHF on top). It is mediocre by definition. | | |
| ▲ | kingstnap 20 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The AIs generation isn't freeform completetion from the beginning of sequence token. It's not an average over all string seen. It's a conditioned generation based on the context (i.e. prompt). If the context can be above average quality the result should be too as long as the AI is sufficiently smart. Especially if people iterate on the produced work to push it up in quality. However if you don't have a good topic and don't iterate to improve the result then you get incredibly poor writing. | | |
| ▲ | wolvesechoes 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | I would need to see an example. Every text by AI I saw was always overly verbose, and very mediocre in regard to figurative elements. Yes, often it is not worse than you average thing you can read on the Internet, but this is the point, right? |
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| ▲ | possiblelion 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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| ▲ | programjames 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Will we? I will value output from people I personally care about, because I want to know more about them. But what about the other 8 billion people? Do you value their output because they are human or for some other reason? Say there was a Chinese artist in a room... |
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| ▲ | goatlover 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm not going to bother engaging with online posts if they all turn into generated replies. | |
| ▲ | acedTrex 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Do you value their output because they are human Their output does have intrinsic value yes... | | |
| ▲ | programjames 18 hours ago | parent [-] | | In an abstract sense, I agree that I value human output because I value humans, even if I never see those humans or their output. But I only can process 10 bits/second, while there is probably a million times that much being posted to the internet. I simply don't have the capacity to care about it except in the abstract sense. |
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| ▲ | willmarch 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Why? |
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| ▲ | mrloba 21 hours ago | parent [-] | | Same reason I value home made cooking, home made furniture, and my kids drawings. Not everything is about the result itself. The process is important to me. Knowing that there is a human on the other side matters. In fact, learning that there is/isn't changes my perception entirely. | | |
| ▲ | willmarch 17 hours ago | parent [-] | | You didn't really answered my question. Why is it important to you to know that there is a human on the other side of things? You just restated what your preference is without giving the 'why' of the preference, which is what I'm curious about. | | |
| ▲ | mrloba 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | No, I said that not everything is about the result itself, but also the process behind it. I value that process. You'll have to ask the philosophers about value judgements, but to me it's just because I'm a human and evolution made me care about other people, how they think and act. For me, then, it _feels_ different reading something if it's made by a human. It tells me something about that person and I feel I get to know them, if only a little bit. | |
| ▲ | acedTrex 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Because I am on the internet to talk to other humans because that is what I enjoy. I am not here to interact with a non human entity. | | |
| ▲ | solyin 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | If space aliens came to Earth on spaceships and logged on to the Internet to talk, I would rush to the Internet to interact with them! Depending on what they wanted, I don't know that I would necessarily enjoy it, but I would be chomping at the bit to give it a try! |
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