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▲ moritonal 2 hours ago

Security matters, users who want choice have to take responsibility, users that don't can just use Apple.

"What happens when I go to the same site on a different platform?" = "If you meant device, then Chrome has a feature to allow you to use a different device such as a NFC YubiKey"

"What if I can't use cross-device authentication because I'm on a locked-down work machine or one that simply doesn't have bluetooth?" = "Good, Passkeys are doing their job correctly and you cannot export credentials"

"What if I want to consolidate them all in one platform just for the sake of being organised?" = "Then log in and add more passkeys to things rather than copy-pasting passwords everywhere"

"What if I lose or simply don't have the device with a certain passkey near me?" = "You should have multiple passkey's or use the various cloud versions that exist"

▲swivelmaster 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That it’s possible to know the answers to these questions doesn’t mean the system is good. This is a level of complexity that most people simply do not have the time or bandwidth for.

▲phoghed 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Most people don't have time for the level of complexity of a password manager in general and just use one hunter3 level password for everything.

▲toss1 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>>users who want choice have to take responsibility, users that don't can just use Apple

I'm perfectly happy to take responsibility — when using a well-designed system that isn't a massive pain-in-the-arse up front designed for vendor lock-in and to penalize small vendors.

Criticizing the new system isn't avoidance of responsibility, it is demanding a product that is worth using, i.e., NOT designed for the manufacturers to extract more money from us without providing more value or locking in their market position, but designed to be actually useful to the people who will actually use it.

EDIT: add last 8 words