| ▲ | jacquesm an hour ago | |
> What do you propose? Consistency. > Europeans deploy their military and attack Russia? Well, given that half our gear was US bought that doesn't even look like an option at this point. > More sanctions? The ones in place were broken by Trump. > If Ukraine destroys more refineries then what effect does that have on the global economy? Ask a russian. But the rest of us will have to deal with it and whatever Ukraine does has far less effect on the world economy than what trump and putin have done and continue to do. > Is it more important to destroy the refineries and cause disruptions to fuel supplies across the world or is more important to not let things get too bad? Where do you get this 'across the world' thing from? > Everyone pretends there are easy answers here and I don’t think there are, nor do I think a lack of nuance and honest discussion does anyone any good. You mean: "I've made up my mind and even though the evidence is obvious I'm going to persist in my way of thinking". It is so transparent. All of the points you make above you could have pulled right off the russian set of talking points. > I’m interested in hearing ideas but I’m not sure what more we can do that will “end the war”. Give Ukraine the means to defend itself, no strings attached, no stupid games and no witholding arms already bought and paid for. Recognize that russia is the aggressor and ensure that they realize that if they stay on this path it can only go down for them. | ||