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▲ mschuster91 4 hours ago

Even the big guns like Amazon can't afford keeping up with Google's speed.

▲realusername 4 hours ago | parent [-]

8 out of the top 10 manufacturers are Chinese. Google has to be careful here, otherwise Android will end up as a Chinese consortium and their own version will just be available on Pixels.

▲wiseowise 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Or China will migrate to Harmony and drop Android altogether.

▲realusername 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes that's also a real possibility. The sanctions on Huawei were a terrible idea, it became a laboratory of what could be rolled out on the whole country if needed. Now this work has been done.

▲mschuster91 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But Western consumers at large won't buy Chinese devices if they don't carry the Play Store. And many Western app developers won't want to deal with Google Play Services and it's APIs missing, which is what made porting to Amazon's Android fork annoying as fuck.

That's the huge, huge carrot that Google carries in front of everyone thinking to fork Android.

▲numpad0 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Right, so the userbase is the true moat. Same stories as anything social.

▲realusername 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They don't want to deal with Google Play Services missing because it's pretty rare to have a mainstream phone without it, as soon as the Chinese manufacturers pump out millions of devices without it in the western market all at once, the developers will have to follow.

Google does have a card to play here, I don't disagree but they shouldn't overstate their hand either. The Google bits of Android are good enough to keep open-source ROMs and small manufacturers away but they aren't a silver bullet and won't save them if China stops playing the game.

▲mschuster91 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

> as soon as the Chinese manufacturers pump out millions of devices without it in the western market all at once, the developers will have to follow.

I highly doubt that. People have far too much money already invested in Play Store purchases, that's a lot to give up for a marginally cheaper phone.

▲realusername 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

There's plenty of users who never spend anything at all on the Play Store, the various estimations I see online are about 15% of paying users.

Also, I don't necessarily think the phones will be marginally cheaper, just that the market will adapt.

▲pydry 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Sundar Pichai will need to take a class from Dario in open source fearmongering.