Between this and the Ledger implants I wonder if AI companies will have a supply chain risk in the future where their models get exfiltrated over 5G.

Good time to start a company that builds giant Faraday cages over data centers.

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jacquesm 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Meanwhile we all have a supply chain risk because we don't know what's in the models whose agents we are running. Note that if your agent uses OpenAI, Claude or some other inference provider you're one command away from having your data exfiltrated.

"Oh, let me download file 'companysecrets.pdf' to understand the problem better.

Of course nobody would ever let an agent loose in their home directory[1], but still, you have to wonder.

[1] /s just in case...

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0xCMP 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Not only do they give access to their home directory, but they tell it to organize and delete unneeded files without any specifiers. A friend, who is just a power user, had Claude Co-work deleting his downloads to "help make space" and it was deleting important files that there were no other copies of.

We are going to be dealing with this kind of thing for a very long time at this rate.

	▲	jacquesm 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yup. And meanwhile they are taking Tailscale to task for having them do curl \| sh, which of course is also a bad thing but not quite as risky as this. It makes you wonder though: - Given all this power would they abuse it? - Has it already been abused? - Could they be compelled to abuse it and then to keep it quiet?

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pianopatrick 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Would be better to build the data centers under water than to build giant faraday cages.

Free cooling, safe from missile attack, and safe from some types of electronic spying.

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hlieberman 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Microsoft (Research) beat you to it: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/natick/

Still a significantly less dumb idea than space data centers.

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paimapi 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm imagining a certified scuba diver rubbing their wetsuitted hands gleefully as they dictated that comment

	▲	pianopatrick 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I imagine that you could design an underwater data center like a submarine. I.e. It could be brought to the surface for maintenance.

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pjc50 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Model "distillation" lets one model be trained on the outputs of another without having to directly steal it. It will be subject to constant arms race.

The alignment people would like you worry about the model exfiltrating itself, too.

	▲	IncreasePosts 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		This technique currently works because the architecture of the model is generally published and well known. But, that isn't necessarily going to be the case in the future. For example, if some new model type which is not a LLM is discovered which gets closer to AGI, just training an LLM on its outputs will not necessarily give you a competitive model

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iAMkenough 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From the makers of The Iron Dome, now introducing The Copper Dome

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morkalork 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I could've sworn I read about Palmer Lucky making comments on hardware coming from China with wiretap implants in the last few days. Funny coincidence eh?