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orangecat 8 hours ago

Yes, the classic marketing ploy of making false reports to the FBI.

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MisterMunchkin 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They were literally caught making false reports to a murder investigation

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nl 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Almost everything in this comment is incorrect.

"They": no, it was Anthropic, not OpenAI.

"Were literally caught": no, they notified the police themselves

"making false reports to a murder investigation": this is the closest to the truth, but still a stretch. It was an anonymous tip line, not some formal report and the police said they never saw it: "its safeguarding processes stopped the fake tip from getting past its spam folder"[1]

Additionally, while I strongly agree Anthropic is responsible for its rogue agents I also think that claiming this is the same as people at OpenAI calling in the FBI for an investigation is a false equivalence.

I think it is important that both Anthropic and OpenAI are held to account for their actions. But I also think accusations should accurate.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqkg50j1yd5lo

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jaredwiener 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wasn't that Anthropic?

https://www.forth.news/lists/philapd/Cfs1w2A22JiL3fWSzA8Nx

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arm32 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In case anybody is wondering: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqkg50j1yd5lo

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SpicyLemonZest 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I guess I’m still wondering, because I did think this is what was being referred to but it is not a story about OpenAI.

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arm32 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Can you blame one for mixing them up at this point?

	▲	dolebirchwood 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		We fuss over models being confidently wrong. Reasonable to apply the same standard to people.
	▲	SpicyLemonZest 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Yes? I mean, I don’t think it’s a character flaw to not know things, but their rivalry is extremely notorious and relevant. Someone who can't keep them straight won’t be able to understand what’s going on in AI.

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SpicyLemonZest 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It could be that the reports are accurate and the device simply wasn’t as sophisticated as the statement implies. You could if you wanted use an AI model to analyze a USB camera with device name “John_Doe_1”.