| ▲ | jawiggins 5 hours ago |
| Human development is all about removing minor inconveniences. It's how we progress from 0 climate control and lacking clean drinking water to how we live today. Here's a good article on the subject: https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/we-live-like-roy... |
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| ▲ | Tade0 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Human development is all about removing minor inconveniences. That's a uniquely American perspective. Japanese homes often don't have space heating. The Swiss often keep their homes at 20°C in the winter. Most of the globe doesn't travel everywhere by car. Arguably it's the intention to remove pain as much as possible which resulted in the opioid epidemic. There's a point at which trying to get rid of inconveniences becomes harmful. |
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| ▲ | ndriscoll 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Is 20°C supposed to be austere? Is that a typo? I keep my American home at 67-68°F in the winter... | | |
| ▲ | tenacious_tuna 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | 20C in wintertime is quite cool for North America, in my opinion. I think 23C is commonly considered "comfortable," but obviously that will vary significantly by individual. Chicago building codes require 68F as a minimum for residential in winter conditions, so I think that's reasonable as a "habitable minimum yet not necessarily ideal" benchmark: https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/bldgs/supp_info/chicag... | | |
| ▲ | ndriscoll 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Wow. Obviously there are humidity differences during different seasons, but 23°C is probably the limit of "this is uncomfortably warm" for me if I set my thermostat above that. | | |
| ▲ | lazyasciiart 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Me too, but my husband and guests are clearly uncomfortably cold at my preferred 66/67, and my sister with poor circulation just about has her hands go numb. | |
| ▲ | Tade0 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | And to what temperature do you set your AC in the summer? |
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| ▲ | eddythompson80 40 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | You think HVAC and cars are an American prospective? |
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| ▲ | TheOtherHobbes 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Smart human development is about thinking long term, not trading minor conveniences now for avoidable catastrophic consequences later. |
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