I think the burden of the proof should be on Apple's side first.

dd8601fn an hour ago | parent | next [-]

They have been. Through years of use, independent auditing, industry and government certification processes, and their Apple Security Research program.

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fckgw 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They've published several whitepapers and technical documentation on how the secure enclave works and it's been poked at by security researchers for years.

	▲	newspaper1 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		If it's not open source (with open hardware), you cannot trust it. Whitepapers are great, but who knows what's actually implemented.

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selectodude 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Apple can’t prove a negative. You have to prove they’re lying.

	▲	ruszki 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		You can. They do all the time in math and programming.
	▲	newspaper1 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		You don't have to prove anything. You need to asses your risk profile and decide if you want to expose yourself to Apple or not.