I got an AppleTV because the modal experience of using webOS on my TV was having my toddler scream "WATCH TRASH TRUCK" while watching a loading spinner. Garbage computer experience. I never disconnected it from the network though. I was watching the NBA Playoffs on broadcast (so no internet involved in the content delivery) and I got an overlay in webOS system fonts suggesting I order delivery food through my TV. I saw it again when watching the World Cup through the Peacock app on the Apple TV.

So I watch like a total of 2 hours of sports in Summer 2026 and my kid gets an hour of TV while he eats lunch and webOS works its hardest to make those both suck ass, and the Apple TV Just WorksTM and we can put our weekly Facetime with Grandma and Grandpa on there. Absolute no brainer better experience.

For privacy specifically, I'll refer you to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93FBI_encryption_d...

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alt227 6 hours ago | parent [-]

For privacy specifically, let me retort with the evidence of Apple giving all of its users data to the US government.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants...

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stouset 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I’m not sure you’ve read your own source.

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alt227 5 hours ago | parent [-]

If you are trusting an Apple quote telling you what they are not doing, when they are obviously under NDA, then thats your decision.

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stouset 5 hours ago | parent [-]

They didn’t not respond. They unambiguously said they are not participating or even aware of the existence of such a program. That goes a hell of a lot further, and would have opened them up to a hell of a lot of issues if it was false.

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alt227 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Where did I say they didnt respond? Do you know what NDAs are? It doesnt seem so.

	▲	stouset 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		For the second time you’ve now failed to read a thing.