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r0fl 7 hours ago

At $299 they’ll sell millions of these in no time

The Apple TV is the same price

iPhones and iPads are so expensive these days that this feels like a steal

I’m buying one for my parents and one for my in-laws for Christmas. Easy $300 gift that I know they won’t have.

I’m sure I’m not the only one who will have that idea

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a012 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Me too, it’s much cheaper and more convenient than you have to have a dedicated phone that for everyone could use at home.

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cromka 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's crazy that the LG doorbell camera, which is basically a video sensor with a button, i.e. way, WAY less of a hardware, is $249.

Where do they get that pricing from?

	▲	compounding_it 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		>Where do they get that pricing from? I cant buy the LG doorbell camera at my local mall in a fancy store. I had not even heard of it until now. Volumes of 100s of millions on chips and volumes in hundreds of thousands will have a huge price difference. We are talking 2 orders of magnitude higher.

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llm_nerd 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>The Apple TV is the same price

This is a funny framing. For those who don't know, the Apple TV 4K debuted at $129 USD. Apple then slightly improved the remote and bumped the price up to $199 USD.

Now today they announced a marginal upgrade -- they added a microphone in the base unit and not just on-demanded toggled on the remote, such that it will always be listening, along with a slightly improved CPU -- and they pumped the price to $299 USD.

So sure, the Apple TV is the "same price", to basically universal derision because they took a successful product and decided to turn it into a shakedown.

And to the root post about how great of a success this will be, virtually an identical top-ranked comment happened in the Vision Pro release. I mean, every flopped product has someone doing the "wow I guess it's going to be a huge success" when people question the point.

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compounding_it 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My guess is that memory is the real reason for the price upgrade. Apple probably added some things to mask the price increase but the real reason is the chip. The old 4GB ram in A15 Bionic probably bumped in price so it went up to 199$ and now the new chip costs even more. Also its easier for Apple to make the same chip in a lot of hardware as opposed to having multiple chips being made, especially when its fused with memory and thats costing a lot.

	▲	llm_nerd 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Sure, Apple's BoM has definitely increased given the pressures on the fabs. By no analysis remotely at the pace that their MSRP has, however. The primary reason the price has spiralled is that Apple is running out of new markets, so every product needs to feed the greed to a greatest extent as they increasingly squeeze their existing customers. It's the same reason why there are paid ads in the AppStore, on Apple Maps, and so on. Expect this behaviour to become more obvious.

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troupo 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And AppleTV which could've been the hub for home automation is crippled in every possible way and is all but useless for this purpose.

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a012 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The Vision Pro would be successful if they priced it to sub $1000

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moralestapia 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If I could hack/root these somehow, even just sideload an app of my choice it would be massive for my personal life.

I have a lot of sensors, and always build variations of "a dashboard with a touchscreen" to play with them.

Insta-buy for me :).

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artisinal 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I bet the local thrift stores are going to love all the gifted HomeViews they are going to receive in 2027.

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SomeonesAccount 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Exactly. Perfect gift

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alerighi 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

$299 is not cheap, is more than what the phone that the average person has costs (that is not an iPhone). And with a smartphone you surely can do much more things than that object. With $299 you can also buy a tablet, even a decent one, where you can install whatever app you want.

But even if it did cost $10, it would still be a waste of money because you spend $10 on an useless product, you would be better to spend them to eat a pizza, it would be more useful.

What do you use it for? This reminds me of the digital photo frames that everyone had back in the days and that were almost finished in a drawer after 1 month of usage.

A useless device that sits on a table with the sole purpose to waste electricity, that for what it costs these days, better to use it for something more useful.

	▲	mahboi 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		$300 doesn't buy you a decent tablet, let alone a laptop. I say this because I thought about using it in a conference room, but lack of 3P apps means never mind.
	▲	pixelatedindex 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> $299 is not cheap … But even if it did cost $10, it would still be a waste of money because you spend $10 on an useless product Moving goalposts aside, how do you know it’s useless? You might not have a use for it, but it’s weird to make such blanket statements for a product that hasn’t even been out yet.