That worry is just as much or more with closed-source models.

Retro_Dev 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Assuming you literally mean "closed-source" (and not just closed weight), then yes I totally agree - it would be really nice if the training data for some LLM were reliably (and ethically sourced), but more important to our assurance of the model that it is byte-for-byte reproducible by us, as to prevent these "sleeper agents" from appearing.

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jrflo 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There would not be the same incentive, closed models wouldn’t want to steal from / Trojan agent swarm their paying customers

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satvikpendem 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why not? They're already competing with their customers, such as how Figma said they were blindsided by Claude Design all while they were still using the Claude API for their own use cases.

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harshalizee 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Considering how the current ecosystem of ad-free paid subscriptions still have ads, it's not too much of a stretch that they will eventually double-dip with their models.

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noosphr an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Given a choice between giving my data to OpenAI or Anthropic I would rather send it to the CCCP.

At least Chinese drones don't have the range to blow me up yet.

	▲	yieldcrv 27 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Same, but not for that reason

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joshheitzman an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

With how lax Antrophic and OpenAI have been on sandboxing the systems they run their agents in, it seems likely they might not be very robust versus hacking. Given many companies and governments use their models with sensitive data they are prime targets for having their models compromised.

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fmbb an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Data is extracted from paying customers and sold all the time.