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▲ rpdillon a day ago

Mirrors my experience, and it's funny you mention busybox: I just discovered busybox's ability to serve via `busybox httpd -p 9000 -h . -f -v` with a `cgi-bin` folder dropped in the current directory.

I already write Python services using Bottle that function both as a standalone server and as a CGI script, and I've been updating them to work with busybox's more constrained CGI environment (basically being able to handle the lack of .htaccess rewrite rules).

I definitely see a chance for simple deployment tools to make a resurgence as we create more one-off/disposable/personal software, and the low system requirements for something like busybox + lua stack are extremely minimal, which fits well with the current DDR4-is-good-enough zeitgeist. I'm running them on an old Raspberry Pi 2B and it's plenty performant for the ~10 people that access it regularly.

▲MomsAVoxell a day ago | parent [-]

Instead of busybox+Lua, I just use TurboLua:

https://turbo.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

Event driven, fast, all the networking basics in place including http, mustache templates and encryption, light and small executable, very nice for embedded applications, signals and fd handling built-in, very easy to use…

Have used it very successfully for million-dollar projects, including some scientific applications running on limited-resource systems (512 megs of RAM) ..

Was very, very easy to add C functions to interface with the web front-end, libffi is great for this purpose, but its also very easy to extend as a standard, well-written Lua/C application ..

▲rpdillon a day ago | parent | next [-]

This is exactly the sort of thing I'm really interested in. I'm particularly excited about various takes on Lua+batteries, have looked into designing my own (C wrapper with bindings to networking, JSON, templating, and DB libraries), but found Redbean to be almost ideal so never got past overall design to dig into code.

Turbo looks fantastic, though! It's precisely the niche I was looking to have filled, so I'll build a prototype or two in it to see what I think. Very much appreciate the pointer!

▲MomsAVoxell a day ago | parent [-]

You’re welcome - we share interests, I too am interested in the Lua+batteries approach to life - I’ve used Lua very successfully in many commercial projects, so I’m quite convinced of its power in spite of the warts and thorns that many newbies in the ways of Lua tend to whine about.

TurboLua is particularly great because it really integrates about all of the I/O mechanisms you could want in a network-centric application, plus it has a pretty nice runtime loop which is easy to hook into and coordinate properly with signal handlers and fd sets and things. Can’t beat it as a very quick way to do embedded stuff too - very easy to do gpio, signal handling, etc.

Good luck, if you have time to share your thoughts after an initial first-pass, I’d be happy to hear your perspective ..

▲Bluestein 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> limited-resource systems (512 megs of RAM) ..

I am offended on behalf of all for whom that is more RAM than their first computer had :)

▲BobbyTables2 20 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Having a computer with 256MB of RAM was once my dream …

Seemed like a lot when I only had 2MB…

▲Bluestein 16 hours ago | parent [-]

What was that Gates quote again? (No. Not the one from his latest, AI-oriented diatribe ...)

▲strawhatguy 3 hours ago | parent [-]

64KiB is all anyone needs, wasn’t it?

▲Bluestein 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That's it :)

PS I do seem to remember it was either disavowed or inexact. Notwithstanding, it is a bit like Twain or Einstein, they get stuck with things that they could reasonably indeed have said.-

▲MomsAVoxell 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, I know. I learned to program on a system with 64k, which was only fully available if one used assembly.

512 megs is not a lot for an embedded Linux project these days, but it can do a lot. Especially if you use Lua. ;)

▲JSR_FDED 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fantastic, thanks. I love Lua and especially the mindset that goes along with it. Will definitely check this out. Combining it with Datastar could be brilliant - I wonder if TurboLua supports SSE streaming.

▲MomsAVoxell 18 hours ago | parent [-]

All the basics are there (chunked mode), I think you’d only need to do some thing things:

    local SSEHandler = class("SSEHandler", turbo.web.RequestHandler)

    function SSEHandler:get()
        self:set_async(true)
        self:set_header("Content-Type", "text/event-stream")
        self:set_header("Cache-Control", "no-cache")
        self:set_chunked_write()

        -- first event
        self:write("data: hello\n\n")
        self:flush()

        -- later events via IOLoop
        local ioloop = turbo.ioloop.instance()
        local count = 0
        local timer
        timer = ioloop:add_timeout(1000, function()
            count = count + 1
            self:write(string.format("data: tick %d\n\n", count))
            self:flush()
            if count < 10 then
                timer = ioloop:add_timeout(1000, timer)  -- reschedule
            else
               self:finish()
            end
        end)
    end
▲mathnode 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is the first I am hearing about turbo lua, very cool! I was aware of openresty but I still resorted to flask for quick endpoints or concepts. This changes things for me.