> especially when they aren’t innovating in a completely new and unproven product space.

I have no doubt at all that Muse will turn out as great as the other product space Meta pioneered under Zuck - the Metaverse and it's constellation of devices.

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freakynit 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Metaverse was right direction with poor execution. Also, it was early... and is still early (if tried again). The world is not there yet for such a thing.

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loeg 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm less confident of you it was even directionally correct. And I'm not really a Meta or Zuck critic in general (the rest of the biz is doing great and Metaverse didn't hurt too much).

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BrokenCogs 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's just another way of saying that Meta failed to deliver a product that matters to the world today

	▲	avarun 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The Quest literally outsold the Xbox despite being a brand new "gaming console". Very difficult to call this a failure if you understand technology.

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jstummbillig 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Timing is not a detail.

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heaney-555 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Quest headsets are roughly as popular as Xbox and Ray-Ban Meta smart glasses have sold an order of magnitude more units than all other smart glasses combined.

But it's far far too early to draw any conclusions around that.

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Cookingboy 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s precisely my point, Muse isn’t a new product space at all. AI agents already exist in enterprises and even in the consumer space, there is OpenClaw and Hermes.

I know people like you will point out Metaverse as a failure, but that’s really the exception instead of the norm.

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jiscariot 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've been running OpenClaw for a year--its been fine, but I really wanted an enterprise experience and to spend less time troubleshooting my agent. Muse exceeded expectations out of the gate, and still does. It has become my daily driver and I shutdown OpenClaw last week.

I get that some are adverse to Meta or want to run local. I don't care who wins the personal agent space, so long as it's not Apple. Buying Siri and having it be useless for anything beyond setting timers for 5 years, is kind of unforgivable. I don't like them in the "default" position to win the personal agent space.

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piyh 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The normies aren't running claw or hermes, they're logging into facebook from their chromebook and clicking "try now"

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		Ultimately that’s Meta’s superpower. Taking stuff everyone is already doing and making it easily accessible through Facebook/Instagram/Whatsapp. They’ve been throwing stuff at the wall to see what will stick and after years a cloud based OpenClaw clone seems to have (it’s early days still). That’s simply leveraging their unprecedented platform dominance.
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overfeed 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> That’s precisely my point, Muse isn’t a new product space at all.

How about the Facebook phone then?