Small nit:

If kitchen knife companies where, in fact, stabbing people to death in their R&D labs - I do believe they would get in trouble for that.

ben_w 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Or indeed if their QA bots wandered off elsewhere to stab people not even in the R&D lab.

Edit:

related, an actual stab-safety test of current models: https://robocurve.org/roboharm/

antonvs 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Ripped from the headlines in 2032.

	▲	ben_w 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Ah, you're an optimist I see.

scotty79 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's actually a very good point. Do you think humanoid robot companies have intent to perform assault since their robots occasionally harm people?

What about car companies?

Going from a design that facilitates potential harm to intent is insane.

	▲	ben_w 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Do you think humanoid robot companies have intent to perform assault since their robots occasionally harm people? Mostly, no. Zuckerberg definitely not, he discusses "superintelligence" in a way that makes it clear he only regards this as a buzzword and has no idea what the implications are. Anthropic also definitely not, they put their money where their mouth was and got illegally blacklisted for refusing to allow its models to be used for (amongst other things) automated weapons. Musk, I think probably yes. Seems to regard all AI safety as "woke" or "censorship", is in bed with the US administration that illegally blacklisted Anthropic. If I had to put money on who first releases to the public a Mr Stabby, I'd put it on Musk, with an Optimus. The rest, I'm less sure about. > What about car companies? Depends on the harm, but I'd say probably yes. Infamously, leaded petrol, resisting seatbelts back in the day, even promoting cars over public transport would be part of this if you consider both local and global pollution. > Going from a design that facilitates potential harm to intent is insane. Well, it's the difference between negligence and malice.

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scotty79 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So the company would have intent to murder, if a person got randomly stabbed in their R&D labs with their knife?

	▲	nicce 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The lack of intent in murder usually lowers the penalty for "manslaughter". Both are crimes.
	▲	r3trohack3r 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> get in trouble for that > intent to murder Two different things