I doubt this will catch on outside of luddite/cynical circles unless one of these attacks does some actual damage.

Ignoring this, I would have appreciated more examples of what it would take for an act to lack intent. Because the definition of intent used in this article sounds so broad as to cover basically anything that ever happens.

Accidentally run someone over? Clearly you knew that was a risk when you started driving, you should have been more careful. Intent.

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Kevin_Flynn 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's interesting that you bring up vehicle / pedestrian accidents, as there is an entire history of that debate being reframed in favor of car companies.

People used to blame the car companies, and then the car companies lobbied to make "jaywalking" a crime, at which point, the frame was reset and now it was the pedestrians to blame, if I recall the story correctly.

They are doing a good job with driverless cars. Someone recently took a Waymo, it went the wrong way down a one way street, they mashed the pull over button and got out, and then told the reporter they'd use the service again.

	▲	kxrm an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Fun fact a "jay" in jaywalker was a derogatory term at the time. Meaning "a rube" or "country bumkin". It was initially thrown at drivers, but car companies successfully flipped the insult. https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/why-is-it-called-ja...

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ballmerpoint 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The language of 18 USC 1030 is clear.

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sebzim4500 an hour ago | parent [-]

Where does it define intent? Maybe there is precedent here, but I wouldn't try to guess which way a court would go when determining whether e.g. the huggingface incident qualifies.

	▲	ballmerpoint 4 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Feel free to investigate the relevant case law; there are ample references in sibling threads.

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bbor 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

until one of these attacks does some actual damage**

Sadly, it seems that we as a species has opted into information through tragedy. I wish I could see another way, but people are just so dug in. It's depressing and shocking how few people realize we're living through the singularity, even ~4 years into the damn thing...