| ▲ | shimman 4 hours ago |
| Just because something is legal doesn't make it right or good for society. |
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| ▲ | kakacik 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Look, if you want better behavior lobby for longer retention, simple as that, laws will be passed if there is enough will behind. Or some centralized store, whatever. Eveeybody will align if things are clear and legally required by date xyz. Dont blame any private company that its not overstepping its legal requirements and adding risks and costs to their business. Its like blaming a guy, any guy, heck all HN we dont pay more taxes than we have to pay, it goes to good things and is moral no? |
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| ▲ | shimman 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | We can do both, it's not hard to advocate for change while calling out bad actors as bad actors. Many companies openly degrade society while following the law. That still doesn't make it right. These are just excuses to allow authoritarians to degrade our lives and society unabated. |
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| ▲ | esikich 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Do you honestly expect all businesses to keep all records forever? Do you understand the costs and labor required to do this? No one does this. |
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| ▲ | nullstyle 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | In an age of exabytes, -yes- | | |
| ▲ | esikich 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Lol ok champ. | | |
| ▲ | Larrikin 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | You can be sarcastic but there is no reason you've said why emails and documents of a few megabytes can't be permanently saved by companies using Exabytes of data. Make your point | | |
| ▲ | esikich 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Understanding the intricacies of large enterprise data and all the forms it can take is an exercise left to the reader. It isn't simple and I'm not sure why anyone would think it is. There isn't just like, a single fileshare you have to monitor. There are many more numbers than just X amount of data. | | |
| ▲ | nullstyle an hour ago | parent [-] | | In a world where I’ve had a dossier in some corporate database since Rapleaf in 2007, I’m completely unwilling to accept your opinion that basic document retention based on account id is more complicated than I’m assuming. edit: the only things that I can see motivating it's lack of existence is lack of law and the desire for greater profitability. nothing technical has prevented it | | |
| ▲ | esikich 11 minutes ago | parent [-] | | How many times has the company changed their archiving service? How many datacenters do they have? How many network shares? What about one drive? Local docs? Gsuite? Remote profile accounts on RDS servers? AS400 shares? What about CAD cloud docs? How many times has the email archiving service changed? Warm storage vs cold storage? How will that be managed? When does it go into read only state? How are you tracking document changes? What about SharePoint docs and lists? Do you need to save vm snapshots? And on and on. |
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| ▲ | shimman 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Apparently it's way too hard and complicated for a multi-billion dollar enterprise to retain documents but quite easy to tell clients how to evade taxes. What a fucked up world. |
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| ▲ | nyc_data_geek 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| They downvoted him because he spoke the truth |
