Another good example why writing secure software matters in the age of connected devices.

blooalien 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Another good example why writing secure software matters in the age of connected devices.

I wonder how many more decades of screaming into the void will be required for it to be taken seriously by those who deny any/all security efforts until after the disaster has already happened (and then still will only approve the absolute minimum required efforts)...

	▲	pjmlp 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Well, if we start counting from Morris worm, without liability in place, plenty more.

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burnt-resistor an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Formal methods for reliable software and properly configured systems secure by default.

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flohofwoe 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Of course the bigger question is why a refrigerator is even a "connected device".

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pjmlp 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Because it is cool! (pun intended)

For the same reason, we hardly have heating meters in Germany that aren't wireless connected to the maintenance company.

To save costs doing maintenance trips to check their state.

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arwineap 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So they can monitor if something goes wrong, have a tech troubleshoot and deploy with the right parts.

Modern HVAC and fire control b systems for buildings are often connected now as well

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asdff 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You can do that while gapping the actual fridge function. Network connected temp probe and dumb fridge. These sort of systems are used in lab setting where its all dumb fridges and freezers, and very precious things inside.

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flohofwoe 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes it was more of a rhetorical question, e.g. maybe we need to rethink that whole idea of plugging everything into the internet and instead go back to air-gapped "local area networks".

It also wouldn't be a big deal when a supermarket employee makes an old-fashioned phone call (gasp!) to the refrigerator service company when some red light starts blinking ;)

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pjmlp 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The poor fellow, or gal, now has to endure AI bots while trying to call support on the phone.

	▲	Delphiza 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		While the app is beeping at them to pack more shelves, and they have already used up their only toilet break of the day to trying to stop the resourcing AI chatbot from putting them on triple shifts for the rest of the week.

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NetMageSCW an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It would be unfortunate if the red light starts blinking at midnight.

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Delphiza 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The trained and retained supermarket employees are gone. The refrigeration service engineer has been replaced by an AI chatbot. We can't scale to qualified people running complex systems on remote air-gapped networks.