HarmonyOS (especially meaning Huawei phones) is pretty much dead outside China, that's like saying WeChat is relevant messaging app outside China

if you can't run all your favorite bank apps in your phone any phone is dead nowadays, no matter whether it is Linux or HarmonyOS

and seems EU is fine with keeping Apple/Google duopoly in app verification, so although you can use European bank and pay with QR codes without MC/Visa, you still need US company verifying your phone so you can use European bank app, sad state of current things

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Skwid an hour ago | parent | next [-]

My phone can't run any of my bank's apps, is it dead too?

I appreciate your intended point was probably more specific, perhaps 'will not be a mass market success in the west', but there is a great diversity of people in the world and many of them have different requirements of a phone

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redanddead 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

wechat is a pretty good app

gojek too

singapore also has some pretty great ideas

go travel a bit, there's an entire world out there that isn't waiting around

when i go to the mall here, i counted 6 korean copycat shops lol

asia is living a completely different lifestyle than us, and its popular even with us, especially with women, and its actually good, and we're still here saying asian shit is irrelevant

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bwv848 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> wechat is a pretty good app

And millions of Chinese bash it everyday. Shit storage efficiency, stagnated UX experience, very closed ecosystem and external link blocking, I could go on.

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redanddead 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

always one of the fattest apps on my phone

hey apple, when are we getting expanded memory, maybe better battery? oh we're still stuck under 4000mAh, cool cool cool

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tensegrist 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

that's how you know it's good. bad apps have rather smaller daily user-bashing numbers

	▲	bwv848 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Not if it is shoveled down to your throat.

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Eueudhsbsj32 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've lived in various Asian countries for the last 10 years, but I've never seen Wechat used except for communication and payments with people from mainland China.

Same with Gojek. They tried launching in other countries, but it never caught on outside of Indonesia, where yes it's huge and awesome.

Grab, on the other hand, has been very successful internationally.

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Markoff 18 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> go travel a bit, there's an entire world out there that isn't waiting around

> asia is living a completely different lifestyle than us, and its popular even with us, especially with women, and its actually good, and we're still here saying asian shit is irrelevant

I lived in China 5+ years and spent plenty of time in other Asian countries travelling, so how to say it politely - stop talking about "us" and preaching me about lifestyle in Asia if you are completely clueless.

WeChat is shit app pushed down the Chinese throats (I remember when QQ was still the king), because it doesn't have competition in China and you can't really exist in China without it, closed sourced with no E2E encryption for starters, there is reason why pretty much nobody outside China/Chinese community uses this actively spying app.

So yes, if by Asian shit, you mean HarmonyOS and WeChat, then yes, Asian shit is irrelevant, because pretty much nobody outside Asia uses it for good reasons (HarmonyOS because it is unusable if you wanna use normal banking apps and most of the other apps relying on GMS besides those very very few ported apps or using some virtual machine workarounds, personally I don't need banking apps and used smartphones without gapps for the last 10 years, but I am realist realizing I may be among like <0.5% Android users in Europe, completely irelevant negligible number).