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▲ newCrotchSmell 3 hours ago

Curious if the author can provide examples of things we ever had ultimate control over?

None of us had a say in our existence itself. Skin color. If we cannot have a say over our provenance itself "ultimate control" is just an empty phrase.

Their concerns about big corp might hold some meager merit but "beware the avarice of rich people who view you as a sheep in their flock whether you want it or not" isn't really new.

▲tavavex 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This is ridiculous. You can nullify basically any argument by bringing up abstract philosophy that has very little to do with the issue at hand. "I want the ability to choose between A and B" - oh, but can you choose? Are you saying you have free will? What's to say the choice wouldn't be the same every time? And so on.

The point is very simple - there was once a day when we had considerably more control over the way we use computers and the networks that connect them. That is slowly being taken away, piece by piece, until the only path to use them is to 'consent' to whatever demands the corporations put up. Not that this doesn't exist already, but today will seem like the wild west in comparison to what's coming.

"Big tech is coercive and evil" isn't a new view, but "passkeys are one of their tools and not just some agnostic technology-first nerd solution" is still not widely known.

▲newCrotchSmell an hour ago | parent [-]

Yes you get me though my argument is the inverse; possible to assert any claim with abstract philosophy like "ultimate control"

And our agreement doesn't stop there. No views I encounter anymore at my near ripe old age of 50 are new anymore

Social conservatism whittles value statements down to a finite subset of cause-effect. And I don't mean just flag waving holy book social conservatism. This community is clinging hard to social tropes the other 8 billion are moving on from

Run a trend analysis on the comments of HN going back decades whole lot of repetitive gab about state management in a machine; chef or bash or llms... same old ground truth; don't speak too far outside the experience of readers or the inherent short term prediction engine in their brain will segfault from a biological memory overflow

Religious people are not the only ones who live in rhetorical fantasy

End of day the provenance of any socialized idea is some rando I have no obligation to march in lockstep with; physically or philosophically