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▲ crote 4 hours ago

This is already illegal in the EU. The consent banners were never about cookies, they have always been about the tracking itself!

Same thing the other way: no need to have a banner for a simple login cookie which isn't being used for privacy-invading tracking purposes.

▲cromka 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yet I am constantly flagged by various pages because Cloudflare decided I had some bot running at some point on my network. And my IP is fixed. Whatever EU is doing, it doesn't work.

▲Gigachad 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You might have a residential proxy running somewhere on the network. The latest in botnets is bundling a proxy in with some TV torrent streaming app or whatever else that can run in the background and proxy malicious traffic from your residential IP. Services like cloudflare and crowdsec will keep a constantly updating list of the IP addresses that are actively sending bot traffic and blacklist them. If you can work out where the traffic is coming from and shut it down you should have this issue go away.

▲snailmailman 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I have a similar issue. I see cloudflare checkboxes all the time. Google makes me fill out captchas all the time. Sometimes it decides I can’t search, sometimes cloudflare doesnt let me past the checkbox.

I’ve checked my network. I’ve monitored egress traffic. There is no residential proxy. I’m not on a VPN. If anything, services should be able to track me entirely by my home IP that doesn’t change that often.

My best guess is that I’ve committed the crime of not allowing third party cookies? Or maybe the crime of not being logged into a Google account 24/7. It’s not browser or device specific. My iPhone is just as likely to fail the cloudflare checkbox as my desktop with Firefox + uBlock.

▲IG_Semmelweiss 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I've committed the extreme crime of running no JS and clean cache of cookies. Plus, something as simple as containerizing work/play/research reading, into different browsers, has provoked the Eye of Google to be cast on me

I haven't seen a YT ad in years while in lurk-only mode (no login), which is nice, but I also see cloudflare everywhere , which is not great.

One of the nicer things about LLMs, is that they arrived just in time to erase my dependency in search.

▲nilslindemann 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have experienced the same with Google and with PayPal, whenever I used Tor. When I afterwards visited those sites using my normal browser I got Captchas. They are actively fighting attempts to avoid fingerprinting. Also, I am pretty sure that no browser protects against getting fingerprinted. Test with https://fingerprint.com/.

▲cowlevel 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Have you got a TV? Or a car?

▲throawayonthe 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

if your IP is fixed, surely no further fingerprinting is necessary?

▲tobwen 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Static IPs completely destroy privacy when not being shared with many users. Our university has one outgoing static IP for hundreds of users :)

▲what 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yet you can’t set a cookie to remember the preference of opting out.

▲buzer 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> they have always been about the tracking itself!

Actually they are about reading from or writing to terminal equipment of user that is not done for "sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network" or "strictly necessary in order for the provider of an information society service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user to provide the service". Some safety-related exceptions are possible via ePD Article 15, but those need to be separately added to the local law. That's why things like functional cookies require consent as well.

Of course there is also the GDPR layer on top of this.

▲lesuorac an hour ago | parent [-]

Eh reads like a “civil war was about states rights not slavery” argument.

The thing the site is doing that isn’t “strictly necessary” is always tracking.

▲buzer 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Point is that tracking isn't the only thing that's not "strictly necessary". And additionally that "strictly necessary" is tied to something specific: internet society service. That includes a very specific requirement: "Normally provided for remuneration". That's why e.g. public authorities should not (usually) be allowed to rely on it, public services are not often provided for remuneration in EU-law sense.

It also limits the exception in relation to e.g. employment.

▲what 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Well now the thing that isn’t “strictly necessary” and they’re not allowed to do is remember my no cookie preference.