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▲ softwaredoug 2 hours ago

One thing - your expenses will ALWAYS somewhow expand to your income. We see our current income as somehow the steady state long term norm. I would do your absolute best to hide extra income from your day to day self and invisibly invest it in a way you don’t even think about

And when you get a windfall (stock grants, acquisitions, etc) unless it’s truly life changing money where you never have to work again, find a good investor (CFP) to manage so you’re not even thinking about it. Or invest it in some future liability like college expenses, home down payment, retirement, etc.

▲chrisdbanks 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I used to think this and then it stopped expanding. I have very low needs. Just enough for healthy food and some tennis equipment and I'm happy. It got to the point where I was earning much more than I could justify spending so I decided to change careers for something that optimised for lifestyle over money and now I'm much happier. People think that more money = more happiness, but I'd say that you need more money when you're unhappy. Money buys comfort but not happiness. Ironically when you're happier you need less money.

▲viceconsole 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Personality and habit. For me, being a graduate student for 7 years (masters then PhD) forced me to live simply. Those habits stuck with me through the next decade of good salaries. My spending went up from graduate student poverty, but I still saved and invested 50% to 70% of gross income. Now I probably have more than a lot of peers who started working well before me, but didn't save as much.

To your point, pay yourself first. Set up automatic investments. Find a fiduciary advisor if you must, but it's really not rocket science.

▲Havoc 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>One thing - your expenses will ALWAYS somewhow expand to your income.

Not necessarily. If the savings deduction comes straight off the paycheque then it doesn't take all that much mental fortitude to pretend what you get is the salary.

▲jandrewrogers 36 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> your expenses will ALWAYS somewhow expand to your income

No they don't. This may be true for some people but many people do not have this compulsion. I know many people who have zero issues saving money because they are largely satisfied with their lifestyle.

The lifestyle doesn't even have to be austere. You can eat out every night at nice restaurants and rent a very nice place on a budget of a couple hundred thousand per year. There is a natural limit on the amount of money you can spend unless you are blowing it on lots of expensive "stuff" that contributes relatively little to quality of life.

▲derwiki an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Advice I got at an early job: every time you get a raise, set up auto transfer to savings/investment for the net new and keep the same lifestyle (thank you Ramit Sethi)

▲anon291 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's a personality thing. I literally don't need anything and hate spending money and am miserly as a hobby.