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▲ trebligdivad an hour ago

I'd heard (from someone trying to use them) that net connections into the Chinese clouds was very busy in the days around the start of the war, so the suggestion is they have critical stuff mirrored there.

▲jacquesm an hour ago | parent [-]

Correct. China has been instrumental in keeping russia supplied and online for the duration of this war.

▲baq 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's also been instrumental in supplying Ukraine to the point they had to schedule Russian and Ukrainian delegations around each other in their factories when they were visiting at the same times. [0]

China is the only true winner of that war.

[0]: https://medium.com/@hayekesteloo/china-vs-ukraine-ft-investi...

▲jacquesm 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

That's precisely the problem. You can't credibly supply both sides in a war where one party clearly is the aggressor and pretend you are neutral. You either supply nobody and then you get to play your neutrality card or you pick a side. If you supply both sides you're just a cynical war profiteer without a conscience.

▲thevillagechief a minute ago | parent | next [-]

Have you met China? They have no pretenses about being neutral or ethical. For them it's just business.

▲baq 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think they're pretending to be neutral. I'm not sure they even think in those categories at all. They'll happily sell as much equipment as they can manufacture for hard cash or barter it for grain, oil or gas as long as the war is going on. They'll start considering options once there's a clear winner on the battlefield.

▲cowboy_henk 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

China's behavior makes sense if they consider both Russia and Ukraine (the latter being a proxy for the west) to be enemies of some sort. Let your enemies fight each other and waste resources while you yourself profit.

The same can be said about the US <> EU/Russia in this conflict. Why bother helping Ukraine/Europe win the war if you consider them at least partly hostile? Better to let them fight your own enemy (Russia) and trade with both sides to your own advantage.

▲yolp5 10 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> You either supply nobody and then you get to play your neutrality card or you pick a side. If you supply both sides you're just a cynical war profiteer without a conscience.

Yes, and that helped turn the US into the global hegemony it is today. No wonder China wants a wack. Power doesn't need a conscience.