| ▲ | londons_explore 3 hours ago |
| Yandex is Russian Google. Of course they have bots... That's how you index the web. If we took Google offline I bet there would also be a reduction in bot traffic from them too! Indexing is also probably a low priority task, so if half their datacenter capacity is taken offline, their bot traffic probably reduces by more than 50%. |
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| ▲ | cromka 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I don't think these are the boys they refer to? EDIT: I was wrong, they're just generic bot vs human traffic numbers and you're right. |
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| ▲ | jquery 16 minutes ago | parent [-] | | This is devastating for Yandex. What does the SRE recovery plan even look like? “Raise shields”? | | |
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| ▲ | walrus01 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The other Yandex AS which is their hosting/hypervisor platform, broadly similar to AWS, Azure, whatever also shows a major drop in bot traffic: https://radar.cloudflare.com/bots/as200350?dateRange=7d https://www.peeringdb.com/net/20950 |
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| ▲ | asdfsa32 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Don't let logic get in the way of a good propaganda. |
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| ▲ | lukan 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Logic says google bots do not come disguised, but as google agents. Or is there other information? Now there is probably also AI agent spam from google, but not at this level I believe. Also I am not fully clear what they count as spam, I doubt they would include google in this list, so do they include yandex bots here, if they come officially? | | |
| ▲ | selcuka 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Google bots definitely come disguised, to check whether the web site serves different content to non-Google user agents. | | |
| ▲ | walrus01 11 minutes ago | parent [-] | | There's also the very well known inverse phenomenon of absolutely non-google people trying to disguise their crawler as a googlebot useragent, which has been a thing since at least... 15 years now? |
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| ▲ | konart 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Neither do Yandex bots. What's your point? | | |
| ▲ | lukan 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | If official yandex bots ain't included in this data here - then it means spam/scam bots come indeed from yandex servers. As they stopped working, when the yandex data center was hit. | | |
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| ▲ | asdfsa32 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I am unsure what you're trying to say. But it seems like you don't understand what Bot means in general and how is it specifically defined for the metric provided in that page. From that pages point of view, a Google bot, Yandex bot, or your uncle Tom's AI agent spam is the same, a bot. | | |
| ▲ | lukan 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I know what it means in general, but like I said indeed not "how is it specifically defined for the metric provided in that page." |
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| ▲ | caaqil 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | loeg 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > HN is just filled with the same primitive tribal normies Yes, but it's mostly the opposite tribe of the one you're complaining about. | |
| ▲ | GlacierFox 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah for real, enlightened one. Russia is great by every metric /s. | |
| ▲ | 876433790 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [flagged] | |
| ▲ | Citizen_Lame 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Will someone think of the Russkies. | | |
| ▲ | kakacik an hour ago | parent [-] | | I keep thinking about them often, what a definition of cancer on modern humanity that country is. Not all people inside, far from it, but that country - absolutely, definitely and consistently. And most of those inside allowed this to happen over decades since even harsh dictatorships represent underlying population in many ways, many even cheered / still cheer on direction their country has taken, and non-trivial amount also like raiding neighbors for the kill, loot and money in general. A stark warning to US if you keep letting things slide to evil direction, this is roughly how you end up over time. | | |
| ▲ | bruce415 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Oh, you sweet summer child. The US is already evil, after its own fashion. | | |
| ▲ | CaptWorld 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | This summer child hasn't touched grass if he thinks the US is eviler than the new axis regimes. If the US is evil then there's no meaning for the word evil anymore | | |
| ▲ | Zetaphor a few seconds ago | parent [-] | | Do you guys not read the news, or study history? We're putting immigrants in concentration camps and shipping them to African countries. We're talking about livestreaming an execution. We prioritize profit and over human life and dignity at every opportunity. We invade countries and murder civilians for profit and political gain. We invaded a country and kidnapped it's leader for oil. I can go on and on, I don't know what reality you're all in where the US isn't a cancer but it sounds a lot more pleasant than the one the rest of us are stuck in. |
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| ▲ | idiotsecant 16 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | This phrase is so annoying. It's one millimeter up from just doing marvel movie quotes instead of typing your actual thoughts like a real live adult human. |
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| ▲ | influx 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | wiseowise an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > normies Touch grass. |
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| ▲ | wewxjfq 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | asdfsa32 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Thanks for making it clear that you didn't look past the submission title. |
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| ▲ | notwatching 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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| ▲ | enopod_ 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I wonder how bot traffic on propaganda platforms like Twitter changed, but they probably won't give out any information anyway. |
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| ▲ | dgellow 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yandex has cloud offering, their servers are used for actual bot traffic, not just crawlers. Yandex hasn’t been only a search company for a very long time. |
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| ▲ | nik282000 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Google hosts a significant number of bots. About half of my fail2ban list is google cloud IPs. | | |
| ▲ | alephnerd 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Of course they do, but they are quick with account bans when notified because of the liability issue unlike Yandex. | | |
| ▲ | luckylion an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I've reported high-volume exploit scanners multiple times, and when expiring blocks a week later, they typically would show up & resumt with the same IP at some point. Maybe they'd care if the account was using a stolen credit card and there was a chance they wouldn't get their money, but they definitely do not care otherwise for normal people like me. I'm sure that'd be different if it's a multinational or a country-level government body is reporting something, but I can't get those to do my bidding. | |
| ▲ | 876433790 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > liability issue Continue drinking the Google kool-aid | |
| ▲ | walrus01 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Right, because I've had such outstanding results getting in touch with actual humans from Google when reporting abusive traffic directed towards my IP ranges. Top tier attention from people who really care. /s | |
| ▲ | saghm an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | That must be why Google has such a stelly reputation for the quality of their support operations |
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| ▲ | AlienRobot 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I wonder how this will affect the Yandex search engine. I think I've read they split the Russian one and .com, but I'm not sure. |
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| ▲ | DonHopkins 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | CoastalCoder 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Can you point to a few comments that you consider examples? I've never noticed occurrences of such stuff, so I'm curious what I'm failing to key in on. Edit: and would someone mind explaining the downvotes? If they're meant to communicate something to me, I'm genuinely not understanding. | | |
| ▲ | rpdillon 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I like to study rhetoric, and appreciate folks asking for specifics. There's a lot of generalities thrown around on this forum that are highly questionable, and the only antidote I have is to request details. It's surprising how often folks resist. A sibling comment replying to you is using a familiar tactic, which is to try to shame you for asking for specifics, while simultaneously providing none and telling you that it's obvious. Occasionally people do provide details and I learn something, but that's not the common case, sadly. | |
| ▲ | wiseowise an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Can you point to a few comments that you consider examples? Just search for “Russia” on HN and follow threads. You’ll find lots of “what about West/Jews”, “Russia is fighting against NATO”, etc. Then open any western news outlet on YouTube and follow comments too. | |
| ▲ | BlackRabbit1 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Post a controversial political statement and grab a beer. | | |
| ▲ | p-e-w 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Obviously. Because anyone who disagrees with the Western online consensus must be a bot, essentially by definition. | | |
| ▲ | wiseowise an hour ago | parent [-] | | Would it please you if “useful idiot” would be used over bot when someone regurgitates Russian metodichkas? |
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| ▲ | braiamp 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ehh, there are enough humans that would do that. Don't delude yourself thinking that there are no people that hold such views. | | |
| ▲ | rokkamokka 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's half the point of the bots though, to spread the propaganda to other people so they spread it as well | | |
| ▲ | p-e-w 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Having multiple genuinely different viewpoints in a discussion isn’t evidence of “bots”, it’s the default in any community that isn’t heavily censored to silence dissent. And individuals voicing their different viewpoints isn’t “propaganda”, it’s the definition of discourse. |
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| ▲ | asanineassasin 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The russian bots are better.. usually its conspiracy fog, attached to a valid russia opposing point that reveals them. Chinese bots are just this months CCP talking points, so can be quite easily visible if they cram some topic only china cares about into every reply. | |
| ▲ | MomsAVoxell 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Nobody wants honesty, everyone just wants to fit in with the collective. The downvotes are the collective, reactive mindset, showing itself. | |
| ▲ | gilrain 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The downvotes are because you're resisting easily-observed reality with the seemingly-rational response "Where is this 'air'? If I'm breathing it, it should be easy to point to, no?" No. If you can't see it, and don't understand it's there, you cannot be explained to. You're someone with no palate asking how anyone else can know if a wine tastes good. | | |
| ▲ | CoastalCoder 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I appreciate that response. I don't know if/how to convince you that I'm asking the question in good faith, but (FWIW) I am. Regardless, wouldn't it be easy to point me to even one example if it's as prevalent as (I think) you're saying? Or am I missing your main point, i.e. that what's being described can't be demonstrated via example? | | |
| ▲ | gilrain 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > wouldn't it be easy to point me to even one example Read and think about my wine analogy, if you care. | | |
| ▲ | CoastalCoder 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I think you're saying that it's hard to articulate why some particular comment should be judged as having come from a bot. I.e., similar to the SCOTUS opinion regarding pornography: "I know it if I see it". Is that correct? If so, wouldn't that still admit someone providing a specific example? The whole point of my original comment was that I knew I wasn't judging these things the same as others were. |
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| ▲ | MomsAVoxell 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Nonsense. They’re trying to breathe and the downvotes won’t allow it. | | |
| ▲ | gilrain 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Point out any wine that doesn't taste the same as any other, to me who has said he cannot taste wine. Only then, I'll believe you that wine can taste good or bad. Is my mind open? Is this not a waste of your time? |
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| ▲ | wiseowise an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| All bot lives matter! Bots have no ethnicity! Bot Russophobia!
Hypocritical West attacks Russian bots only, what about US/European bots! |