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▲ hyperhello 3 hours ago

You know, if an old city with a natural boundary doesn’t think you should build a bunch of profitable crap in it, maybe you could take the hint and stop acting like you’re bringing Jesus to them. San Francisco’s seen the conquistadors. In fact, many of the streets in the Sunset are named after them.

▲JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> maybe you could take the hint

Locked supply. Affordable housing. Growing standards of living (or population). Pick two.

If you lock supply and want taxes and wages to grow, you're choosing unaffordable housing. That's San Francisco's current policy choice. Over decades, it filters the poor to San Francisco's "outer boroughs" or onto its streets.

For what it's worth, my friends who lived in San Francisco "took the hint" and moved out when they chose to have kids. They didn't sell their place, however, since the above policy mix together with California's property-tax system strongly disincentivizes that.

▲margalabargala an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's of course an option too.

I haven't played OP's game but hopefully it accurately models the plummetting quality of life and rampant homelessness created by doing what you describe in the real world.

▲sebzim4500 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Or you could look at the massive number of homeless people and take the hint yourself

▲howunfortunate 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Reminds me of this: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1259638112688304129

▲hyperhello an hour ago | parent [-]

I have absolutely no idea what that means related to my comment, but I’m really enjoying seeing my opinions getting roasted for being out of touch.

▲rubicon33 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

let me guess, homeowner in SF?

▲Bratmon 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, how DARE people under 40 want somewhere to live!

▲gchamonlive 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I remember before COVID I was debating with a friend of mine whether or not private property is justifiable and it's ironic that the discussion was made obsolete by nobody being able to afford private property anymore

▲Andrex an hour ago | parent [-]

The justification of private property is that we don't have a proven and workable alternative at a civilizational scale.

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▲bobthepanda 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean, stopping housing construction hasn’t stopped the new money from pushing out the old soul. Given the US enshrines the free movement of people in the Constitution, it’s make room or have someone outbid you for yours.

▲scrame 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, lets turn everywhere into the shitty place we grew up in.

▲bobthepanda 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It is possible to grow in a pleasant way without mallification, seems like a lot of projecting. And it’s not like the current approach is preventing that; insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

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