The little I have to run Telegram Desktop for, I run in a VM. I'd never let the little oligarch's code touch my desktop OS.

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lifeisloving 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I dont write off software because where the person that made it was born. I personally think thats the same thing as refusing to eat at a black owned resturaunt because of the owners skin color.

Seems like many people do this when it comes to russian tech. Im American and I certainly trust my data in the hands of a foriegn government/entity (which is not even the case for telegram), than my own. Even if it was a russian op (its not the Ukrainian military literally used telegram for years), the russian government cant touch me.

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ornornor 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Telegram is a double threat: the company is Russian and the founder was arrested then mysteriously released without any charges in France. Given why France wanted him and arrested him, the fact they released him a few days later with no charge annihilated the little shred of trust I had in this Russian piece of software, personally.

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g-b-r 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You're sure you're replying to the right message? It doesn't mention any country or nationality...

Anyhow, people don't write off Telegram because it's Russian, but for many legitimate reasons.

There are indications that it could be much closer to the Russian government than they pretend, but that matters not because Russians are bad people, but because the current government of Russia is an aggressive dictatorship.

The Ukrainian military literally used Telegram for years and now literally banned it.

Maybe in part for this Ukrainian article: https://texty.org.ua/articles/112347/eight-signsof-danger-te...

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feelamee 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Anyhow, people don't write off Telegram because it's Russian, but for many legitimate reasons.

> There are indications that it could be much closer to the Russian government than they pretend

Can you give more details, please? I'm using telegram a lot and want to know if there is something...

	▲	g-b-r 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		https://texty.org.ua/articles/112347/eight-signsof-danger-te... , https://medium.com/@anton.rozenberg/pavel-durov-sued-senior-...

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lxgr 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The main reason I consider it suspicious is that they are so adamant about not needing end-to-end encryption.

Even assuming they are fully legitimate today, if this ever changes and somebody gets access to their infrastructure, they immediately get a treasure trove of historical messages.

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lifeisloving 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Calling him an oligarch, it was implied

	▲	ShinyLeftPad an hour ago \| parent [-]
		There are oligarchs in other countries like USA (Musk)