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▲ ImPostingOnHN an hour ago

> I don't want HN'ers setting up surveillance networks anymore than I want them strapping a pistol to their hip and fighting crime.

In exactly equal measure: I don't want cops setting up surveillance networks any more than I want HN'ers doing it (less so, actually). So this post, bringing attention to that issue, is good, imo.

As long as random joe dropout with a badge from boss hogg can do it, and vc-backed visionary mr misanthrope can do it, so can the rest of the people. Cops and corps are only special to the degree that We The People want them to be. And speaking for the plurality of We The People [0]: we do not want them to be special in this way.

0 – https://www.reuters.com/world/us/who-likes-flock-ai-cameras-...

▲EA-3167 an hour ago | parent [-]

"Raising awareness" is a scam, especially in this context on this site. Not a single person here is unaware of surveillance as a topic, that's no a serious idea. Again a simplistic model that "If A can do B, B can do A" is how children see the world. Different roles comes with different levels of accountability and oversight. Arguing for more or different oversight? Arguing to vote against mass surveillance measures and the politicians who support them? Organizing as a community? ALL GOOD.

Stunts for attention so that libertarians on HN can get a smugrection? Nah.

▲ImPostingOnHN an hour ago | parent [-]

> a scam

> no a serious idea

> a simplistic model

> how children see the world

> stunts for attention

Your reply is mostly insults and shallow dismissals, so I don't see any reason to meaningfully respond to those parts. I'll check back later to see if you've edited insults out and substance in.

As for your separate ideas of community organization: good on you for spearheading that. The world could use more yous doing that, too. If there are any specific asks you have of the community to help you there, HN is full of capable folks.

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