| ▲ | fifilura 3 hours ago |
| The committee is independent from politics although some dictators may at times misunderstand that. |
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| ▲ | belorn an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| Where does it say that the Norwegian Nobel Committee is independent from politics? As stated on their webpage, "As far as possible, the composition of the Committee is to reflect the relative strengths of the political parties in the Storting." - https://www.nobelpeaceprize.org/nobel-committee/ It is independent to the sitting Norwegian government, as members can't have current seats both in the committee and Storting, but several committee do represent the political parties in Norway. Currently the committee is made from former Leader of the Centre Party, a foreign policy scholar and writer, former Conservative Party cabinet member that was the Minister of Education and Research, a Political scientist and Chief Executive Officer of Utøya AS, and last the former Labour Party Foreign Affairs Secretary. |
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| ▲ | pczy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I find it hard to see how the committee can be genuinely independent of politics when its members are appointed by the Norwegian Parliament. |
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| ▲ | originalvichy an hour ago | parent [-] | | Norway is one of the few countries in the world that has ”fuck you” money and a functioning representative electoral system. If the parliament appoints the committee, I find it politically suicidal for any representative to dare to directly interfere with the commissions deliberation and choices. There’s hardly anything positive to gain from it for a representative. | | |
| ▲ | j_maffe 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | The only country that has "fuck you" anything is unfortunately the US. | | |
| ▲ | originalvichy 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The current US administration and its voting population is making sure that this won't be the case soon. It's gonna be hard to win back the good will that was built through decades of diplomacy and trade. Even harder when their conventional armed forces have been underwhelming in the attack on Iran. |
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| ▲ | chewchewchew an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | how does this imply that they can be disconnected from politics, some may argue on the contrary due to what you just stated. | | |
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| ▲ | baggachipz an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There's always FIFA to give out a prize if necessary. |
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| ▲ | ks2048 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "independent from politics" seems to have a few different meanings. One is inherently bad and another is not necessarily bad. Of course the committee is political and the entire nature of the award is political. |
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| ▲ | kzrdude 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They have really not made the impression that they are independent of politics, all laureates taken together. But if they improve I'm all for it. |
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| ▲ | fifilura 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | They have opinions and moral values. And a lot of times they coincide with western democracy ideals. Or - like today - with rules based global world order. | | |
| ▲ | impossiblefork 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You remember Machado though... Peace prize for someone who was literally arguing for subjecting her own country to an invasion and foreign occupation. I remember how Swedish state television suddenly flipped very after that, and started cuddling Cuban exiles who wanted the same there. I think this whole thing was certainly coordinated somehow, behind the scenes in order to attempt to legitmize a future US invasion of Venezuela and their general conduct in the Carribean and South America /Pacific. Things like this happened during expulsion of the Karabach-Armenians too. Then SVT went out and said that "Armenian separatists [had] agreed to leave Azerbaijan", and they left out the artillery bombardement, the deaths by starvation and the ICJ judgement against Azerbaijan's closure of the Lachine corridor, even though such a judgement by an organization like the ICJ would otherwise by first-page news. So while I can't be sure that there's some NATO-internal press office coordinating how planned future military activity by members is to be presented in the media, it seems that Turkey could achieve that, and that the US could achieve that. | | |
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| ▲ | fifilura 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah, I guess they act independently from international courts. | | |
| ▲ | impossiblefork 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | How do you mean, and who? If you mean Swedish state television, what I meant was that any such major judgement by a UN court like the ICJ, would be front page news. Remember, this stuff was subject to long and incredibly annoying thing in the Security Council as well, and SVT ignored that too. It was the biggest thing that happened that whole year, basically and the entire coverage by SVT were those words I quoted in the comment before this, that "Armenian separatists have agreed to leave Azerbaijan". | | |
| ▲ | fifilura an hour ago | parent [-] | | The Norwegian nobel prize committee. (Your post was heavily edited, if you think i missed some point.) | | |
| ▲ | impossiblefork an hour ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, I can be slow in getting them finished. But at that point I can't have mentioned the ICJ stuff, can I? Hmm. Oh well. I get what I get for my editing. | | |
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| ▲ | kzrdude 26 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | The committee in this case is based on retired or ageing Norwegian politicians. That's the construction that we can't do so much about (the will), but I think it's unfortunate for the prize. I think a more independent committee would have been better. I agree with the common criticism that they have given several prizes too rashly or too soon. |
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| ▲ | yostrovs 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The committee is selected by the Norwegian parliament, a political body. |
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| ▲ | p-e-w 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | And there is a long history of allegations of additional political influence beyond that. |
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