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▲ landgenoot 5 hours ago

Don't you think a robot can fix your toilet as well?

Why are meta glasses such a big deal? Because they need training data for manual labor.

▲appplication 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The challenge is not will robots fix toilets but will the economics support it if we end up with most of the world unemployed and without careers. Yes of course we can hand wave basic income and government intervention but reading the room (e.g. last 70+ years of US labor and capital trends) it’s not the most likely outcome, even if it is the most game theory optimal for all.

Realistically the outcome of highly capable advanced AI is an economic dark age more than anything else.

▲UncleOxidant 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I read The Mountain in the Sea by Ray Nayler a couple years back. In it AIs were running ocean fishing fleets. They figured out that robots were too expensive and prone to malfunction at sea, so they would have the robots kidnap people on shore, drug them and then have them wake up on the ships too far out in the ocean to be able to escape and thenm tell them they could get back home if they work.

▲CGamesPlay 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Humans were doing a hundred years ago in reality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghaiing

▲hnfong 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's hilarious to read stuff like this.

Robots automating everything and humans not needing to work was the stuff paradise fantasies were made of.

Sure, it would be the end of capitalism (which, I guess you could describe as "economic dark age"), but people these days have so little imagination what life outside of capitalism looks like that ideal societies sound like a horror story.

▲ptidhomme 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The AI overlords will eventually consider the majority of human lives to be worthless. Let's face it, one day we will need to fight for mere survival.

▲x-complexity 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Why are meta glasses such a big deal? Because they need training data for manual labor.

Meta glasses are a terrible example for the case you're making a point about: 90+% of whatever video they'll capture will be trash data.

It'd be much more efficient to set up dedicated sites just for producing the very same training data you're claiming they harvest.

▲beej71 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why would you pay for a robot to do it when you could just hire one of the 20 million new plumbers (ex-developers, high school graduates, etc.) who just retrained and entered the field?

▲rob74 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Unlike code, with a toilet it can be very unpleasant and/or expensive if AI gets it wrong three times before fixing it correctly.