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▲ gregoryl a day ago

Roughly, zero. Stimulants are not a fun dependency, come with a bucket list of side effects and downsides, and only mitigate one aspect of ADHD.

▲gchamonlive a day ago | parent [-]

ADHD treats with Lisdexamfetamine. Amfetamines, I repeat. People use this to study, to get high at parties, to be functional at work, so I really doubt there aren't patients out there abusing these drugs with valid prescriptions.

▲jplusequalt a day ago | parent [-]

Yes, some people will abuse their prescriptions.

But the majority will not. Treating ADHD through stimulants usually has fantastic outcomes for patients.

▲skeezyboi 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Treating ADHD through stimulants usually has fantastic outcomes for patients.

does it though? this comment section should be testament to everyone on meds still struggling

▲gchamonlive a day ago | parent | prev [-]

So it isn't roughly zero, and this minority is what's being discussed here.

▲bbor 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You brought up people "high at parties", no one else is discussing that.

▲gchamonlive 12 hours ago | parent [-]

and what about the rest of the discussion?

▲jplusequalt a day ago | parent | prev [-]

No, but if you're trying to argue that sleep therapy would be more effective for this group than non-stimulant form of medication, you need to prove this.

Sleepy therapy (CBT-I) may be the best supported treatment for insomnia, but it's still quite shit. ~50% of people will see little to no improvement after going through therapy.

▲gchamonlive a day ago | parent [-]

I'm not arguing anything, I'm questioning