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▲ rapind 2 hours ago

It's really not cheaper than frontier subscriptions. It's getting closer, and it's a great model, but it is not more value per task than the frontier subscriptions. Don't be swayed by the token costs, it's very chatty, like 3x more tokens for the same task as sol. I used dsf 4.1 full time for about a week.

It blows frontier API pricing out of the water, but again, look at cost per task, not token usage. Still easily wins though for my work.

I do think it's the most viable alternative I've seen so far, and that applies pressure to the frontier models. Should subscription prices hike or become unavailable for some reason, I know what I'll be using.

When pricing this, it's important to consider whether or not you want to opt out of data training. You won't get the advertised rate. Also the dsf 4.1 subscription providers are throttled af... and of course they are, because otherwise they'd be haemorrhaging money.

▲apitman 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I am looking at cost per task (and speed per task), both benchmarks and anecdotal experience.

▲LeBit an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

What are you talking about?

DS4.1 Flash not really cheaper than frontier models???

It is insanely cheaper.