| ▲ | ambicapter 3 hours ago | |
I don't see how either of your examples are necessarily more direct than the other? | ||
| ▲ | ksd482 3 hours ago | parent [-] | |
hmm..perhaps I was biased because I watched a couple of documentaries, a tv film and read the book by John Carreyrou "Bad Blood", so my eyes were primed to look for this pattern. But he was definitely manipulative in this regard. | ||