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▲ Karliss an hour ago

> The newspaper must be widely distributed in the area where the job is located.

Based on that I would expect that if you advertise in small town newspaper, the job needs to be located in that small town. Want them to work in your big office next to big city, then it must be a newspaper widely distributed in that city not a small town on the opposite side of continent.

▲mkatx an hour ago | parent [-]

I wonder if wfh creates any loopholes here, and they just select areas where there are no real candidate pools.

▲socializer an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I've seen these ads. Not the latest, some things might have changed, but circa 2015-2018, this is how they rolled:

1. You choose newspapers that are least likely to actually reach people looking for tech jobs.

2. You post an small ad specifying the role in the most vague and unappealing terms.

3. There is some weird and inconvenient way to apply (e.g., fax- or snail-mail-only) that goes to /dev/null.

You can argue that it follows the letter of the law, but as a practical matter, the outcome is always that there are no US-based applicants for any H-1B SWE role, so something is wonky, right?

▲wincy 36 minutes ago | parent [-]

Didn’t people start publishing lists of these and people started applying and these HR departments lost their minds?

▲rdtsc 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Yup someone started to aggregate those. Corp lawyers probably laughed at their cuteness and then proceeded to obscure the process even more. Say, only publish in newspapers without an online presence, so someone has to physically scan it. Or find a small town where few people in tech live. Also notify the HR department to ensure to flag out all US applications for some other "unrelated reason" that look plausible on paper.

▲Melatonic 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Anyone know the list ? Curious to check it out

▲throwaway85825 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, jobs.now

▲Karliss an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

What's the point of bringing in workers into US just to have them work remotely from home? At that point why not have them work remotely from other side of ocean.

▲throwup238 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Cultural and timezone alignment. We’ve been here before with the outsourcing wave 20 years ago. The answers are still the same, remote is just a job perk.

▲michaelt 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

Before Covid-19, when you asked tech folks about outsourcing to central American countries (or even within the US to places with lower wages than the bay area), the answer would always be "nothing can replace in-person meetings around a real whiteboard"

▲Melatonic 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Taxes probably. And you can bring them in if necessary occasionally.

It's a lot less accounting work to have most of your workers in the same state. Imagine single workers or small groups in many different countries.

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