Honest question, does having a temporary worker on a 10 year H1B visa seem like it's benefiting US citizens working in the same sector?

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idiotsecant a day ago | parent [-]

If they had wage parity there is zero disadvantage to a US citizen. The problem is not H1B's as a concept, it's making foreign workers indentured servants paid a fraction of the wage, thus incentivizing their hiring over US citizens.

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al_borland 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If the pool of potential workers is bigger, the wages should go down. That's still wage parity... but it's lower for everyone than it might otherwise be.

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AustinDev a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't follow? Why would a US citizen want to compete against 8B people for jobs instead of just 300M? Seems like the lower number is better for the citizens of the US.

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wat10000 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Would that US citizen be even better off if we got rid of all the other Americans so they had to compete against nobody?

Immigrants contribute to both supply and demand. It's not at all obvious whether this is net good or bad for natives' pay.

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idiotsecant a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Why not just decide that only white people or only men or only people born on Tuesdays can apply for the job you want?

The job should go to the most qualified person. That's how america works. If that most qualified person is actually a guy who was born in india, great. I have no problem with that. You don't get to bogart opportunity based one what zip code you were born in.

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AustinDev a day ago | parent [-]

What is the purpose of a nation if not to benefit its own Citizens. If it doesn't do that in good times then why would anyone fight when called upon?

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idiotsecant 19 hours ago | parent [-]

...Do you think the point of the United States of America is to help you get a job that a brown person is better qualified for?

	▲	Detrytus 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The point of the United States of America is to take care of its citizens. A "better qualified brown person" has their own country where they can apply for jobs without any restrictions. Them coming to US is a privilege, not a right. And I say it as H-1B visa holder from Europe.
	▲	AustinDev 19 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		What are you even talking about?