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| ▲ | Palomides 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| RFCs were originally formalization of what was being used in practice, home.arpa was chosen apparently for reasons of beauracratic convenience rather than what would best serve existing users, who all would prefer .lan and continue to do so since that was published in 2018 |
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| ▲ | gavinsyancey 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I looked into the actual reasoning here: - Originally, IETF specified .home, but never went through the process to add it to the list of reserved names. - Someone applied for the .home gTLD, and while it ultimately didn't go through there was a while while it was up in the air. Due to this the homenet working group had to change gTLDs. - They decided to switch to .homenet. However, because of DNSSEC, whatever they used would need an insecure delegation in the root zone or validating resolvers wouldn't be able to resolve it. Since IAB controls .arpa but IANNA controls the root and there was no process to ask IANNA for this, they eventually decided to use home.arpa instead. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/homenet/8cfJkr7SPMaPS4... RFC 8244 is an interesting read on the topic: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8244/ | |
| ▲ | gumby 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > RFCs were originally formalization of what was being used in practice You may be confusing it with the IETF’s policy. In early days of the RFCs, most started out as proposals, often but not always with some existing implementation as a jumping-off point to conversation (hence the name). I no longer remember why they started to be numbered and tracked, as the process naturally preceded that. You can verify what I say by just reading some old ones at the rfc editor site. |
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| ▲ | esskay 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| and most people dont use it because its an incredibly poor name. |
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| ▲ | penskymaterial an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | What, exactly, makes it poor? Be specific. | | |
| ▲ | simondotau 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I will be very specific about why it is poor. The specific reason is my home network is not the Advanced Research Projects Agency. | |
| ▲ | GuB-42 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | - WTF is arpa? (in reality, I know, but there are better names than an obscure reference to internet prehistory) - it is a second-level domain, why? - 9 characters (home.arpa) is a lot I kind of understand the motivation, it is a "technical" domain since it doesn't represent something in the global DNS registry, so it gets the .arpa TLD. However, that's reasoning that it out of touch from normal users. Normal users don't want to be exposed to the technicalities of DNS when they enter something in the address bar, and "myserver.lan" is more meaningful than "myserver.home.arpa", and giving meaningful names is the whole point of DNS. | |
| ▲ | brookst 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | having two levels, for one. "arpa" not being remotely memorably to non-technical people, for another. | |
| ▲ | denkmoon 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | The character count. lan is 3 char, home.arpa is 9. Subjectively, tt is also aesthetically unappealing. I can't fucking _wait_ to type bender.home.arpa instead of bender.lan. Hyped. |
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| ▲ | lokoj 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Why don't they just put home.arpa or .arpa in their search path? |
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| ▲ | pqb 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It would be awesome if Ubiquity will actually follow this RFC too. The Amplifi product line from Ubiquity have `.lan` support but no `home.arpa`. [0]: https://amplifi.com/ |
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| ▲ | brookst 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| yeah I'm not going to tell my s/o to use plex.home.arpa. instead of plex.lan |
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| ▲ | c0l0 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That's nice and all, but OpenWrt (and its use of .lan) predates this particular RFC by a rough 14 years. I hope the gTLD application gets struck down. |
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| ▲ | pwdisswordfishq 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | God forbid OpenWrt ever receives an update or something. | | |
| ▲ | free_bip 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You know, just because it's in an RFC doesn't mean it's actually practical. 'home.arpa' is significantly worse than every other option. | |
| ▲ | jamesnorden 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | An update wouldn't change all the existing configurations. | |
| ▲ | c0l0 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | If you actually think it's a trivial affair to change a well-established default with more than 20 years of history that is, on top of all other difficulties that such a change typically encompasses, used to identify and name things, I hereby beg you to never design or provide any kind of infrastructure. |
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| ▲ | greatgib 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| But why is it that nowadays, it's enough for a vulture corporation to have enough money to be able to privatize a part of the "web" that is in common usage (in the sense of common good) since so long? It should be logical even without thinking that the request have to be rejected. |
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| ▲ | fridder an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| .internal as well I believe |
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| ▲ | stop50 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Internal. is also an valid option.
I moved everything there about a year ago |
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| ▲ | deno 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| But what if my LAN is in the garage? |
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