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▲ micromacrofoot an hour ago

sure but if everyone is using AI, wouldn't the bar also be raised for everyone? you can output more faster and the bar for impressive is much higher

I suppose it would be interesting to have a random split, half use AI half don't, judging is blind and see what the outcome is

▲velo_aprx 37 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The demoparty Assembly actually has an vibe coded demo competition. And maybe that is a solution to the problem, but it just does not interest me.

Sceners are no strangers to imposing artificial constraints on themselves. Just look at high end 64k, 8k, 4k, and 256byte intro coding, there is no real reason for it other than the challenge. So I really hope this mindset can be applied to AI use as well.

▲venzaspa 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> you can output more faster

I think the point is your not outputting anything. For crud apps that's fine but an activity where the whole point of it is to show off your technical skills it seems quite pointless.

▲micromacrofoot 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

That's a bit nonsense though isn't it? The bot isn't showing up to the party and coming up with a plan to present. The person is operating the machine, and without the person there's no output.

If I can beat someone's technical skills with AI what are their technical skills worth? That's the question that a lot of people are struggling with right now.

If you can come up with a problem that a human can solve better without AI, then that's an interesting competition and the tools involved wouldn't end up mattering much.

Now if the contest is "who can develop the best/smallest/fastest app without AI" that's completely fine, there are similarly "who can cut the most grass with a scythe" competitions and everyone involved knows what they're signing up for and has a good time. Nothing wrong with that.