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▲ sghiassy 12 hours ago

Assuming he used $400,000 in tokens, but used subs

I wonder how much AI companies lost on this?

Edit: not that I’m worried about them, I’m just curious

▲esperent 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> I wonder how much AI companies lost on this?

Probably zero, or even a profit. The idea that these companies are making a loss on subscriptions is an unsubstantiated HN fallacy.

On the contrary, they're probably making a small profit on subscriptions, or at least break even, and absolute bank on API pricing. Anthropic recently reported an 80% gross profit margin, for example.

https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/anthropic-t...

▲adrianvincent 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Profitable, if you just ignore how much money they spend

▲janalsncm 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Excited for their IPO just to put this to bed, one way or another.

▲rich_sasha 7 hours ago | parent [-]

It might, but also might not. I would imagine the economics are genuinely very tangled up even before you start obfuscating it - it’s very hard to fairly allocate fixed costs between training and inference.

I think a clearer picture would be from inference-only orgs.

▲MBCook 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What are “subs”?

▲sghiassy 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Subscription

▲MBCook 11 hours ago | parent [-]

So you pay $20/mo, let it run for a long time, then claim you used the equivalent of $1/2 million?

▲scotty79 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

I think he has 5-10 of $200 subs, but yes, that's the general idea.